It’s 100% off if you have roughly 2-3 million gold
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FFXIV players are insecure when the game has competition, despite the constant claims that it’s the superior and ‘best MMO ever’.
Meanwhile most of us are happy when the MMO genre has competition going. It (usually) makes all MMOs work harder to produce fun or innovative content, as they can’t simply sit on their laurels and rest assured their fanbase isn’t going anywhere, so thus they don’t have to put any effort in.
Which is frankly what’s been happening with FFXIV, so I’d personally love to see WoW and other older as well as upcoming MMOs provide grand experiences and actual healthy competition in the market. Maybe SE and the devs would finally stop taking the road of least resistance on their cash cow.
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The only thing better than buying dragonflight with gold is buying the war within for less gold.
What’s funny is it’s not even like this is in recent years this has been happening.
Remember when Conan Exiles and Age of Conan came out, was around the same time as a WoW expansion and people were complaining then as well about it.
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Problem is, I play both, so all that means is I am going to either be poor in July, or have to choose one or the other…
And if I choose both, which one will I play first, as both expansions look awesome to me.
but dragonflight is the nothingburger filler
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They haven’t even started alpha yet have they? I am going to bet we don’t see it until Sept at the earliest and even that will be rushed.
Every expansion is rushed. Every!
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The roadmap they released said Summer.
I’d bet sometime in late August. IIRC, Legion and BFA released around those times. Not that there is any precedent.
That can be said for wow players too or any fan base of any game. Sekiro community HATES when any sekiro-ish game comes out and gets up tight about it trash talking it like sekiro is the perfect 10/10 and there needs to be no game like it.
And there is no true best MMO - every mmo does something different at times that makes them better then another, but each have their own strengths and weaknesses.
A few for example(strengths):
WoW: endgame in general(raids, M+ , pvp).
FFXIV Community, ultimate raids, way better glamour(transmog), more to do in general endgame.
ESO: Best open world, all dialogue is voiced excellently, decent stories because ES lore is so grand.
But yes ive been around long enough to see the wow forums flare up and get “insecure” when wow suddenly had competition too. Dont act like its FFXIV only, its every fanbase in existence.
I explained earlier. Its a corporate move to steal the spotlight and retain your player base. If you dont release anything, the playerbase tends to move onto something else. The problem of course is the product gets rushed out the door and little feedback gets changed.
If shadowlands had more “cooking” time instead of be rushed out to meet a quota, we wouldnt have had covenant locked system and had to bleed players to tell them to open up covenant switching. They would have made the maw way more interesting. Etc etc. But then again this was in an era where devs were living in an echo chamber and thought all their ideas were 10/10 enjoyable. Then subs bled like crazy and they went into a frantic and their bubble popped.
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For the first time in FF XIV’s history, I won’t be purchasing their next expansion, so it’s fine by me.
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TWW better be good.
If not, I’ve got more FF14 to finish up lol.
Blizzard can’t stop taking L’s lately.
No one said that, just that you people bark the loudest. I have seen it repeatedly across 10 years on FFXIV’s boards, and y’all can’t even keep yourselves limited to your own forums. No, you have to spam about it on entirely unrelated game forums to people who likely don’t care, lol.
No MMO is fully better than another. They just all do different things ‘better’, but just as equally do other things worse than competition.
It’s why having a healthy MMO market is good, despite what I often see XIV players spouting in opposition; people can choose where they have the most fun, based on what game caters specifically to their preferred methods of gameplay or enjoyment. Some people can even have multiple they play that all fill different niches! I myself have ESO and LotRO in my back pocket, as well as OSRS. That way, any time I either want a change from WoW or simply need time away from it for a while, I have other games that fill similar niches but offer different experiences.
Tell me you haven’t played FFXIV for longer than a year without telling me you haven’t played it longer than a year.
Endgame consists of a few different casual fluff content that you set and forget within 15 minutes a la a mobile game, or running the same roulettes ad nauseum until you finish gearing, or running the same Savage/Ultimate raids ad nauseum until you finish gearing. Endwalker especially had even less endgame to it than any other expansion combined, due to how braindead the relic ‘grind’ was and the lack of an exploratory zone like Eureka or Bozja. Criterion dungeons were dead on arrival with little to no incentives to keep running them after the first time, and there’s no PotD equivalent either.
People who play XIV purely for endgame basically go on maintenance mode within a month of a major patch drop, and within a week of a minor patch. It’s one of the major reasons I and my entire FC ended up quitting the game and moving to WoW (or just dropping MMOs altogether). There was literally nothing to do, even if you were hypercasual. And no, that is not good design for an MMO, despite what everyone always parrots from Yoshida.
Honestly, no wonder XIV players get insecure about WoW or other games releasing expansions at/around the same time as their own. 
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Ive played since SB actually, yeah I missed HW sadly when it was current but thats alright. Still enjoyed it all the same even if HW was empty of players. Leveling crafters and making gil is fun, theres always money to be had. I also farm extreme trials for mounts, level alt jobs, etc. I do actively take breaks as well, ill admit that. But I do the same with wow to a degree and just raid log at times.
But…it’s South America, aka up to FF14’s version of Mists of Pandaria.
But that’s the opposite of avoiding confrontation. That’s causing the confrontation with confidence that you’ll win. It’s a smarmy move, agreed, but it’s very obviously a power position move from an industry leader. Forcing the choice only works if you have the expectation of winning.
FFXIV Dawntrail 1rst -
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Ahh… two new expansions releasing in summer of 2024! Remember what that would have felt like when you were still in school and summer was an actual vacation you didn’t have to work thru? 
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Take the time you’d normally put into either one, divide by 2, and enjoy.
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…what are you on about? That isn’t childish competition, that’s just competition.
Releasing your xpac to compete actively with the other largest MMO seems like a good competitive strategy - I’m not sure what’s childish about it.
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