It should be funny when the raid releases and mythic is timegated so everyone goes in and clears all the content. Then the people who were told for years how hard retail is will have a moment where they have to come to terms with the fact that they cleared all the content.
This with retail is there is multiple difficulties, so the people that swear retail is harder always use mythic as to why it’s so much harder than classic (whether they cleared it or not). The people claiming classic are harder probably went AFK in LFR and got epic and thus see the whole game that way. Retail will always be harder, or easier, depending on what you cherry-pick to compare things to.
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None. Nobody here knows of a shadowlands.
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As someone who has done plenty of both, I’d say Classic raiding is kind of similar to Heroic. Good, well-prepared guilds will blow through most of it in the first couple of days but there is a lot of things newer players can struggle with. I guess you could say Naxx is a bit harder than the average Heroic tier (excluding the final boss of said tier), I don’t know, my guild has only had one day there.
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The difference is, classic content has been around for 15 years and cleared countless times, it’s hard to compare it to new content that nobody knows yet. If people go back and redo all old mythic content from years ago it would be a lot easier than it was when it first came out, strictly because everyone now knows how to beat it.
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I don’t know what shadowlands is, but the next Expansion worth talking about it The Burning Crusade, I hear that Illidan is in it.
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last i checked mythic raid participation was a joke, nobody does them
cleared it on normal? let’s release LFR.
I mean… LFR shows the same content Mythic does, so yeah… The end content of retail is also very easy.
Heroic is the real normal mode, since there isn’t stripped mechanics, but I get flamed by casuals for saying that.
Normal mode is objectively harder than anything classic has to offer.
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Why are these boards so obsessed with retail? They dont talk about classic anywhere near as much
Just play and enjoy what you want. Were all lucky enough to be able to play the one we want
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If by normal you mean LFR than not even close. Even low key mythics are easier than a Baron run.
They talk about this because they are insecure about classic being easier. Why? I have no clue. It doesn’t matter at all. But some people have to take a cultist mentality about classic instead of just liking it for what it is.
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The final boss of BFA. Took the world first guild 274 tries.
As my old guild use to have a saying. If you refuse to do anything
difficult. You have no right complaining about difficulty.
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Always that set group who has to disprove what another group says
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I disagree. Classic is only as “hard” as a normal difficulty raid, at best…However, in classic the bosses tend to do much more damage as a % of people’s HP, which means that if you DO screw up it’s a lot more difficult(sometimes impossible) to get things back on track. IE, dps pulls aggro on Vael: quite often that’s an instant wipe, but if it doesn’t happen he’s really not that tough.
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the feel of naxxramas is very similar to the feel of Heroic raiding.
it’s…good. it’s really good. my two classic guilds are both at 4/15 after the first raidweek and it feels like we’re finally doing some serious progression.
I think this will be the first true progression in vanilla for me.
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Agreed, it does feel like Heroic raiding used to when I last did it. Which was in Cata.
Naxx 40 is fun and I like doing it with my guildies.
I did Naxx in Vanilla too and I’m honestly wondering how my Vanilla guild did some of this stuff. We didn’t have everything written out for us. We didn’t clear completely but did get like 13/15 or something before we stopped.
Anyway, yes this time is fun we got 5/15 this week with my non-super hardcore “dad” guild and we got several attempts on Loatheb and Patchwerk with no world buffs and mostly unflasked so we’ll see how next week goes. Again it was pretty fun. It will also be fun to go back.
As for this topic itself, I agree with some others that it wasn’t necessary. However, when you get other threads that have zero focus on Retail and you have Retail trolls coming into them for absolutely for no reason other than to brag or something it kind of prompts this sort of topic. I don’t go to the General Discussion forums and post all over it about Classic because that’s stupid so why do Retail trolls keep doing this here? Like who’s insecure in this situation? At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter what’s harder (and I agree Mythic and prob the current Heroic is more difficult in retail but I don’t play it so I don’t know for sure).
I just don’t get the need to compare the two. They are very different games honestly. For raid preparation classic takes much more time than retail. For the actual mechanical skill of say doing a rotation, or raid mechanics classic is much simpler than retail.
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There are Mythic-only mechanics on many fights too. It’s not just Heroic with bigger numbers (and certainly not LFR with bigger numbers.)
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