When do heroics give higher ilevel?

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Sardorim-zuljin

Then where would a player even start with m+ without being intimidated by it? Cuz I’ve met plenty that just don’t do it as the game never prepared them for it and didn’t like how different it was.

Aside from the timer, regular dungeons.

Assuming level 70 here.

Normal Dungeon: lowest mob hp/damage output, fewest mechanics
Heroic Dungeon: still slightly lower mob hp/damage output, couple more mechanics
Mythic Dungeon: base mob hp/damage output (for level 70), all mechanics
Mythic+ 2-3: slight increase in mob hp/damage output, same mechanics, +1 affix
Mythic+ 4-6: slight increase in mob hp/damage ouptut, same mechanics, +1 additional affix
Mythic+ 7-9: slight increase in mob hp/damage ouptut, same mechanics, +1 additional affix
Mythic+ 10: slight increase in mob hp/damage ouptut, same mechanics, +1 additional affix
Mythic+ 11+: nothing new, just increase in mob hp/damage output

Again, it’s all stepping stones. Each tier adds a little bit more. About the time you can no longer sleep through the content (normal/heroic), is about the time you should start paying attention to the dungeon and mechanics and learning. If you don’t want to do that, then the excuse of:

@Sardorim-zuljin

Cuz I’ve met plenty that just don’t do it as the game never prepared them for it and didn’t like how different it was.

is not valid as the game does teach you, they just refused to learn.

@Sardorim-zuljin

Having to form their own groups on something the game gives them no way to learn it on their own time is a huge wall for many players

Don’t have to form your own. Thousands/millions of other players are taking that step out for them. They just have to apply.

The timer issue, yeah that’s a valid thing. But it’s part of the challenge. If you don’t like the challenge, hey no biggie, plenty of other things in game for you to enjoy! But everything has stepping stones to help prepare you.

And to be fair, M+ was never meant to be PuGGed and definitely not put into a queue system. It was made for already existing groups of friends to do together (IRL and guilds/communities). The fact we do have an LFG system for it is a plus though.

[Greesebosse-malygos]

@Sardorim-zuljin

I multi-task

Talk about gaming the system! Having WoW on one monitor, YouTube on another and tick-tok’ing on the phone!! Take THAT Blizz!!

Dunno why folks feel multitasking is a brag. Scatter brains thinking they all Beautiful Minds.

[Captsjw-illidan]

Oh wow you sure are toxic arent ya

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

Nothing is changing about the current loot methods for season 1, well except that damn bow being “re-tuned”. The big stuff is coming next season in the 10.1 patch.

[Emméry-whisperwind]

@Myzrym-area-52

These things literally do not matter in a 0.

M0 can be ran by a random group of fresh 70’s every bit as easily as a heroic.

my interpretation when that person said this process should be automated, thought they were talking about M+. not M0. so yeah ill agree that m0 should totally be queable.

[Armnhmr-hyjal]

All the excuses I’m hearing are laziness, social anxiety, and fear. It’s a game lmao, have some fun and just try