When do heroics give higher ilevel?

[Hizuru-burning-blade]

Dude literally spends more effort whining on forums than it takes to make a group that says something.

[Dragonman-altar-of-storms]

There’s nothing to understand except for your laziness and stubbornness

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Nah, it’s just bad gatekeeping.

There’s no reason why M+ 0 isn’t in the lfg tool.

[Dragonman-altar-of-storms]

@Sardorim-zuljin

Nah, it’s just bad gatekeeping.

@Dragonman-altar-of-storms

something something gatekeep

There is no gatekeeping if you make your own group.

@Sardorim-zuljin

There’s no reason why M+ 0 isn’t in the lfg tool.

There’s no reason to add it. Make your own group. Interact with players.

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Says the one hiding behind an alt account.

I get it. You’re so scared of m+ 0 that you want it to be as annoying as possible to do it. Thay way you have an excuse for your own inability.

[Anxxy-sargeras]

Well he’s trying his best, I think

i give this one… 0/10

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Nah, I won’t bother with a gate meant to waste my time. Got plenty of others things I can do in game.

[Dragonman-altar-of-storms]

@Sardorim-zuljin

Nah, I won’t bother with a gate meant to waste my time

They say, while spending more than double the amount of time doing trying to do queued content.

[Hizuru-burning-blade]

Just put this thing on ignore and report for troll.

[Sardorim-zuljin]

I can queue and do whatever I want whole waiting and when it pops it’s go time.

While the other way wastes my time and I make too much money to have my time wasted by an outdated system

[Dragonman-altar-of-storms]

@Sardorim-zuljin

I can queue and do whatever I want whole waiting

You can do whatever you want while you form your group

@Sardorim-zuljin

I make too much money to have my time wasted by an outdated system

Of course that money making isn’t hindered by crying on the forums though

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Ah, it’s hilarious how hard headed you are.

[Dragonman-altar-of-storms]

I have the same thought

[Sardorim-zuljin]

That would be a step up for you.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Myzrym-area-52

There’s really no excuse for 0’s to not be in a queue system at this point. It’s the LFR of 5 mans

That would be normal and heroic

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Heroic should just be replaced by m+ 0.

It is super easy and world quests give way better gear than it.

People do the weekly dungeon quests on normal anyway as there’s no benefit doing it on heroic. It just takes longer.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Sardorim-zuljin

It is super easy and world quests give way better gear than it.

World quests are based off of ilvl. Which heroic dungeons help with

@Sardorim-zuljin

Heroic should just be replaced by m+ 0

That’s like saying normal raids should just be replaced by Heroic because they’re easy.

They’re stepping stones. Each difficulty adds a little more

Normals for leveling
Heroics for gearing once max level
Mythics(+) for progression

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Heroic isn’t a stepping stone. It doesn’t teach the player anything and the gear it drops is just plain bad.

At least m+ 0 on queue would get more players to try m+ and slowly be eased into it.

Normals and heroics don’t teach players a thing about m+.

[Grizzle-eredar]

@Sardorim-zuljin

At least m+ 0 on queue would get more players to try m+ and dlowly be eased into it.

M0 and M+ are not the same thing though. So it really wouldn’t.

@Sardorim-zuljin

Normals and heroics don’t teach players a thing about m+.

It’s not meant to. It’s about dungeon mechanics. M0 being on queue system doesn’t teach anyone about m+ system either

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Then where would a player even start with m+ without being intimidated by it? Cuz I’ve met plenty that just don’t do it as the game never prepared them for it and didn’t like how different it was.

Having to form their own groups on something the game gives them no way to learn it on their own time is a huge wall for many players. That and the timer can be intimidating to them.