Advertised as faction conflict oriented xpack
Then turned into oldgod/troll themed
Then turned into naga themed
Then moved back into oldgod theme
What a complete mess, been really painful watching this franchise commit suicide lately.
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the moment people started complaining about guilds they never had a chance to join
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I mean I kinda expected it to be filler based on how Legion was great. Before that WoD was awful filler. MoP was great.
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Hope they get shadowlands right, looks like the pattern of Ateam --> Bteam expac is solidified.
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Honestly its like wod, existing only to make the next expansion story make sense.
I don’t like this route.
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While not my favourite expansion, I do not dislike BfA either.
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Filler is the toast in your eggs and bacon breakfast - BFA is if you swapped your coffee for water and you keep drinking it hoping for coffee with your eggs toast and bacon breakfast but some one keeps refilling the damn cup with more water.
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Idunno, when did you come to terms with the fact that the WoW community wants to sabotage the experience of the WoW game? Never have I ever experienced such an antisocial negative community that continues to play a game they don’t like. It’s actually obnoxious and caused me to cancel my sub, thank god I realized that this game actually isn’t about the community before it was too late. Once you let go of this toxic negative jaded community entirely, you can enjoy WoW for what it is again. This community in game is absolutely insufferably negative though.
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Figured it out immediately. Faction conflict as the main plot of an xpac simply cannot work due to how both factions have to exist in a playable fashion. Now it could have worked, if the rest of the xpac’s plot line didn’t seem like it was rushed out just to be done with the old god stuff for good. I still say Xal’atath and a return to an Emerald Nightmare-like scene would have been a much more satisfying experience and this would have given space for Aszhara and Nzoth to really shine in a whole new xpac.
I disagree. With how poorly balanced PvP is and several buggy systems with weak rewards…the fewer pvpers left that I meet are way nicer. I’ve made friends in game and on the forums. I also have plenty of people add me when I tank m+ for them too. Community is pretty good imho.
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Yes it can be good, but there is this pervasive atmosphere that I personally couldn’t shake without fully disregarding my desire to engage with this community. It’s like, nawh, I’m not gonna walk out onto that minefield and potentially ruin my WoW experience just to socialize in a video game. Not worth it. The amount of WoW haters with an active subscription is just disproportionately high to the amount of people who actually enjoy the game they play. Too many hopeless addicts roaming azeroth.
Oh. Those? I haven’t encountered them. Or I tuned them out a long time ago. More likely I agree with their complaints but the game is what it is.
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It’s not filler. A filler expansion would be one with no plot development or anything major happening.
BFA and Legion have set up tons of major plotlines for the game to pick up after Shadowlands.
The reality is that BFA was advertised as yes, a Faction War, but also a BATTLE FOR AZEROTH. Heck, we even saw Azshara’s concept art at the end of BlizzCon 2017. The faction war in reality was just a lead-in for Shadowlands and the Old God stuff has been building up since 7.0 in Legion.
This was the South Seas expansion. And when it comes to the South Seas, there’s a lot of diversity there. Kul Tiras and Zandalar are very different, but they made sense.
Yeah, I’ve tuned them out now but as a result I don’t reach out socially anymore. Before I tuned them out I was very loose socially and made a lot of friends every time I played this game, now I don’t because I am tired of hearing negative perspectives of WoW from strangers who act like they wanted to continue playing this game with me. It’s much easier to control what you are exposed to when you don’t reach out. When the community is as negative as it is in BfA, it’s not worth it to reach out. The community is the only reason BfA is struggling, because they are so incredibly entitled and negative.
edit: Also upon further inspection, you’re probably part of that negative side of the community you’re turning a blind eye to judging by the tone of your post. It’s crazy to act like people aren’t actively hating on the game while playing it. It’s crazy to assert that we don’t have players that simply shouldn’t be subscribed but can’t cancel because they are afraid of life without WoW. Those players are ruining the social experience of players who actually want to play WoW. Give it a rest and get a life.
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I expected it to be bad, when others mostly universally said legion was good. Like microsoft, blizz has a good/bad cycle. I guess this means shadowlands should be at least acceptable.
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A community you disagree with is far from the reason BfA is in the same boat as WoD in terms of reception. Has it never occurred to you that perhaps all the complaining you’re complaining about isn’t just mindless whining and might be coming from players who used to love the game, are disappointed with the road it’s gone, and want to hope there’s still a chance it could be awesome again.
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It 100% is mindless whining, in every single instance I’ve witnessed it. In every forum. They can’t produce an argument, they can’t produce a real reason for it to be bad. Just opinionated BS spoken in the wrong room. Take it to the suggestions forums where it is appropriate. Leave it out of general discussion, leave it out of the game itself. You would make suggestions but you can’t because you have no real complaints, just looking for someone to whine at because mom is on CD.
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So why do you come to the forums? And why do you read these topics? I’d say 95% of the time a topic’s title tells you what attitude to expect. So why do you read posts by negative people?
I mean, really, it’s all on you. I don’t go to a science fiction and fantasy convention, walk into presentations about “Star Wars” and then cry about how the community being so obsessed with “Star Wars.” I just CHOOSE what to take in. Because I take responsibility for my own choices.
You obviously are going looking for negativity. Which is fine IF YOU DON’T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. But you go looking for posts you don’t like so you can moan about them.
So go away. Obviously you are an emotional little sponge incapable of dealing with opinions that don’t conform to your’s, so don’t read negative posts.
Stop being a drama queen or king.
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I told you I stopped caring about this community. Don’t like being judged? Don’t go out in public with profanity on your shirt.
edit: Also it’s more like going to a star wars movie, then a group of 10 “star wars fans” sits next to you and they all have large popcorns and they all have large cokes and they all complain constantly about the state of current star wars and how bad it is compared to the original star wars while spitting on you. I just came to see the movie. I didn’t come for their commentary. I don’t log into WoW to hear a bunch of washed up losers talking about how good WoW used to be. I was there between vanilla and the end of wotlk, I remember how bad WoW used to be for real. Not just pretending to seem cool and part of the hive mind, I was actually there and all I did was complain about how bad the gameplay was, and it truly was bad. Conceptually the game was good though, and the community was good. It’s 100% reverse how it is now, community kept the game alive while the game itself was insufferably bad. The game is the only thing keeping the game alive now. The community is trying its very best to kill it.
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I was dissatisfied with this expansion pretty much from the get. I ground out void elves and 90% of lightforged in prepatch then unsubbed a few weeks later. It’s been touch and go ever since.
As much as I loathe the way they’ve made us acquire ARs (tomorrow my mechagnome arrives, yay), the fact I will use at least void elves and mechagnomes for many expansions to come is pretty much the only positive thing I can say about it.
I’ve just never been able to get into world questing, and that’s pretty much all you can do at cap anymore except maybe a single evening a week of LFR. Ironically I was thinking I’d be more likely to do WQs if I had flying, only problem with that is that flying requires a buttload of WQs on the ground to unlock, so it’s kind of a non-starter.
All that said, I’m cautiously hyped for shadowlands. Can’t wait to take a mechagnome hunter into the maw of oblivion or whatever it is. BfA never felt right to me (even faction conflict I’m meh about) however entering The WoW Afterlife is something I can actually get into. They’ll have to really mess it up for me to not like that. Famous last words, I know.
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