The game is run by people who think cleavage needs to be replaced with fruit. I want the frat back.
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No, youâve got it wrong. The war is completely pointless because itâs completely arbitrary. The reason that is harmful in a game is because without player agency, thereâs no reason for a player to actually be there. Furthermore, everything has plot armor because, again, both sides are player factions. So what if Varian dies? Thereâll be a new leader, because there has to be. Who cares if Garrosh dies? New leader coming up next week. The Alliance and Horde are both invincible and inconsequential.
Players arbitrarily losing access to zones and NPCs isnât âstakesâ because thereâs no input from them. Unless you consider âchoose your factionâ to be an invitation to gambling and hoping you picked the writersâ favorite that expansion.
Are you two seriously still at this? Itâs been HOURS
Or, and hear me out as someone who has been in the WarCraft universe since WC2 (IE: as long as weâve had actual lore):
We know the history. And we know our history, and weâre exhausted by the world we live in.
And literally, in WarCraft weâve also seen the different factions come together to face down megathreats countless times only to then break into war for the stupidest reasons imaginable (Oh, Hi, Sylvanas!).
This game is supposed to be a fantasy. I donât think itâs so ridiculous or outlsandish to want our characters to be able to effect the greater good and help bring about some kind of peace after 19 (Happy Cake Day, WoW!) freaking years in WoW fighting the good fight.
And like I said, a lot of us are tired with the real world and the endless conflicts already raging around the world.
I think the people who believe that Blizzard is pandering to a miniscule demographic of ânot real WarCraft fansâ who the game would be fine without if they disappeared are the ones with outlandish expectations.
Whether anyone likes it or not, there is a substantial demographic of players who want this, whoâve been asking for it for almost two decades.
I literally beta tested Vanilla. Day 1, OG WoW Player who considers themselves a âlore junkie.â
I know my history. Iâm tired of repeating it.
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There is a forum here called the Story Forum:
Latest Lore/Story Forum topics - World of Warcraft Forums (blizzard.com)
where people can post these sorts of long, rambling discussions about story, lore, etc. By my calculation, your post is 2,500+ words long. That forum would seem to be a better place for your work.
You might be better off considering that forum for posts which many people here just dont have the time or patience to read very long, verbrose posts on these types of topics.
Well you convinced me. Horde heads should be pikes. Where do I sign up and when do we start?
I watched the Equalizer 3 last night. We are basically Robert McCall. Someone is in need and we go in rampage and murder anything no question asked and people love us because we are really just a good person.
Thatâs the core gameplay loop of Grand Theft Auto; most of the enemies you fight in this game probably arenât even humanoids
Not reading the rest, just seems like the same old complaining about how the game used to be totally brutal and metal and whatnot and now isnât, when in reality it was always a totally campy fantasy game for nerds
Or maybe their brains have just been fried by Twitter and TikTok and now they have the attention span of an amoeba.
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Apparently theyâd rather listen to someone on youtube âumm, and uhhhâ and ramble for thirty minutes while theyâre repeatedly told to smash the subscribe button.
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Too long, didnât read. All you had to say was âbring violence and brutality back to Warcraft loreâ but no, you wanted to huff your own farts for however many hours it took you to compose this yarn.
FFS you used the term âludonarrative dissonance.â Iâm willing to bet most of us have to look up what that is. You just wanted to hear yourself talk. Go back to the deviants that inhabit Reddit.
No. I hate videos like that. Especially if theyâre thirty minutes long. Like how long it would probably take to read this gigantic OP. Brevity is the soul of wit.
Most folks who are worth a damn on these forums are more than able to read longer posts. But between an inflammatory title, an immediate false comparison (the general gameplay loop of WoW can just as easily be described as âWaiting for the next poop-flinging quest to be introduced in an upcoming expansionâ), and being quite long with no clear goal in mind ⌠thatâs just poor writing.
If your first few sentences arenât connecting with people, you failed to convey your thoughts properly. Thatâs a failure of your writing and not on the reader (and I know this very well being quite prone to it as well except the whole âblaming othersâ-part).
Of course folks are going to ask for a TL;DR if you immediately start off with what is only popular amongst trolls. I have no problem reading longer posts and quite like them. But, Iâm not reading what seems to be most likely yet another âBut Warcraft isnât Warcraft:y enoughâ-post. Just one that has a weird fixation about an intimidation tactic closely associated with tyranny and torture.
I just skimmed through it and ⌠nothing about it seems any different than any of the rest of the âNot Warcraft:y enoughâ, yet fails to define what that even remotely would mean. It honestly just sounds like you never left the âRamboâ-phase a lot of kids have, which typically then develop into some bizarre views about masculinity, and character and personal growth.
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I did actually tried to read what you had written but honestly it just doesnât interest me. And I couldnât figure out its purpose without dissecting it, which I frankly wasnât intrigued enough to try (and all of that is entirely a personal opinion, not a put down). The reason I suggested the other forum was that lore and story are often discussed there. But hey, you do you, there is nothing wrong with posting such things here since it obviously is discussing WoW.
I think you can only impale so many heads on pikes before you feel like retiring to paint watercolor landscapes.
My hope is that there is in fact another side of Azeroth with its own people.
And they are NOT nice people. And the moment they find out we exist, itâs on sight. An overwhelming and and barbaric people who attack both The Alliance and Horde would ignite some Warcraft.
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I would love this.
Iâll happily pike people once Iâm able to play a Drakonid or be a different class on Dracthyr.
Two of these donât seem likely to happen anytime soon.
:L
Wowee ainât that something
One scaly race is already too many.