Why is the current blizz devs so in love with rng? It is pavlovs dog theory where we all zone in Tuesday to see what the wow gods gave us?
Why don’t they just let loot drop off bosses? Loot from dungeons PvP and raids it has to be a way to mile out the subs otherwise blizz wouldn’t do it.
And no, it’s not a “bonus” they limited the loot drops off bosses and have us lined up like inmates with dinner trays every Tuesday.
I get rng been a while I mean you would look up bosses dungeons or raids to see what loot dropped off where. That was such a cool system why did they stop this?
I guess it can only be to somehow squeeze water from the subs. But it’s definitely not “bonus” for doing content
To answer your question it was a needed change as the game evolved.
Tier in earlier incarnations was no where near as powerful and obtainable via valor/badges. If anything with how closely tier is tied to class balance it should likely be available week one via the forge so long as the forge respects ilv.
World first raiders already split to ensure bis during progression so it isnt really changing anything beyond throwing the rest of the playerbase a bone.
Yeah but tier was special I mean you worked on a boss and got it. Just doesn’t seem at all special.
And you would look to see what items would drop off bosses so you would run dungeons or raids to get a specific item: you knew it dropped off the boss it was a percentage chance. I just don’t get the vault idea I guess for those that don’t do raiding it was to spread the tier love around.
I just guess you had to experience tier pieces of raid bosses to think it was kinda neat and magical. Well earned.
Dear OP,
This started with M+ and it isn’t going away because people who run M+ get a higher level item out of the vault each week.
I think it is a terrible system, and would much rather get a token each week where I can buy a nice bis item. But if Blizz did that, they’d have to deal with the fact that people would gear up faster than they can produce patches. And they risk people unsubbing until the next patch drops.
There is a point in gearing that the only upgrades people get is FROM VAULT… Max base drop from 19-20’s is 405… Vault from completing either one of those is 418 and 421.
Most players are at the point of waiting for tuesday is the only increase in their characters they see so… yes we need more loot than just waiting weekly for a chance at something which most of the time we get something we never need and forced to complete more keys to go again next week.
There are people I’ve met who are ubsubbing until 1-2 months before season ends so they can come back to uncapped valor and actually gear and feel good about playing…
So no I don’t think average/casual players will quit if they gear too fast. We already have top tier .5%'ers quitting because they have full mythic raid clears and 20+'s on farm. They’re waiting for 10.5 to come out or prepping for it at the very least.
Most of them got ahead due to exploits with the market, crafting and other abusive bugs the first 2 weeks.
But it felt more rewarding and you actually felt the increase in dmg when you got the item finally… Getting a blue back then was just godly to achieve and you sure felt it.
Now? You need to obtain an epic item that is 10-18 ilvls ahead of what you have to feel a slight change in your damage/heals or defenses. It’s abysmal.
They are going to be missing months of 418-421 ilv loot from the vault and they could be playing the game and getting upgrades from doing higher keys, you could farm keys instead of complaining about higher ilv gear or a VP cap.
You have plenty of upgrades from +10 and higher, is not insignificant the amount of power you can farm just by doing keys.
Telling me a person that has every slot 408+ of their BiS can get upgrades from doing 20’s still? Cause I’d call that a lie… They are waiting weekly for vault loot to obtain upgrades, between that time they complete a few 20’s and call it good and fiddle with alts cause they can’t get upgrades on their 1-2 mains anymore.
Not really a fan of how little loot drops in m+. Did probably 10 of them this week and got 2 cloaks that I did not need. Badly hurting for gear to move onto higher m+ but now it’s just waiting for the weekly vault piece and I’m about to finish 2 reps so I’ll have 2 things crafted. Personally I preferred the system they had a long time ago (maybe BC?) where you would accrue valor and could spend it on the pieces you wanted/needed. It gave you something to work for that you knew you could get, you just had to put the work in for it. Now we are at the mercy of the RNG gods.
Everyone is like that, you get to a point where getting upgrades is harder and harder, is not like raiders keep getting upgrades every single week either, is not rare to not get nothing for weeks outside of the vault.