What's the lore behind WoW?

Nobbel the Noble is always a win.

I’ve heard this before… originally they wanted to make Warhammer into a computer game but they got rejected, so they took Warhammer’s story, changed it a little and came up with Warcraft…

yes humans so racist for not wanting a disgusting alien race randomly showing up on their home planet and demanding land and resources.

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I worked out the other day that I dislike playing as horde because horde zones and quests feel like they were designed by the most uninteresting DM ever. “And then you go to… another desolate wasteland… to… kill some stuff. Why? Because you’re a Horde, and that’s what Horde do.”

i dont think it was so much a rejection but a disagreement on how it should be executed, probably on the financial side, who should be afforded what rights, and how much those rights should cost.

warcraft never had a nurgle or tzneech (? spelling) but definitely had a khorne (sargeras). nurgle and tzneech came later. nurgle got reduced to aboms and later turned into “forgotten ones” (old gods) in tft, and tzneech was turned into the dreadlord council.

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They did all of that under gul’dans and sargeras ’ corruption not out of free mind. wouldn’t a human court say that is not wrong.

I have no idea what the lore really is. But I have some inclination that alliance truly are the bad guys. Not sure why. So if you rolled horde cause you think it’s the bad guy race, I got some news for you.

Elves got greedy summoned demons. Destroy the world. Demons come back and bring orcs and ogres. Orcs get free of demons. Bobby Kotnick wants TBC servers (yes that’s lore too)

There’s a guy called Nobbel87 on YouTube that literally has… pshhh probably like in the thousands of hours now of detailed lore. There’s some playlists he has that cover the basics.

Personally I can’t stand his accent and he speaks at like 900 words a minute so normally I just try and read the transcripts rather than having to listen to him. But to each their own I suppose.

Edit: The key is not to expect to get all the lore in like an afternoon. There’s a decade and a half (not counting the RTS games) of lore. I’ve been studying the lore off-and-on for years and still struggle.

If you’re interested in the lore of Classic and don’t like being confused (post-Wotlk lore is pretty convoluted), I would strongly recommend that you read up on older Warcraft RTS books, like Lord of the Clans and The Last Guardian, and play the first three Warcraft RTS games if you haven’t already. The first two are iconic, if a bit goofy and stylistically outdated, but Warcraft III combines beautiful visuals (considering how dated it is) with a believable storyline and some truly memorable and remarkable characters. Almost all of the remarkable characters from WoW are from Warcraft III, simply put. Once they died or were otherwise gotten rid of, the MMO suffered quite a lot with its writing.

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No, because they did so willingly, lol. You can’t get all hopped up on drugs then say the drugs made you do it so lolnocharges.

Nobell lore videos are great for lore. Love this kid’s videos and funky accent.
I played Warcraft 1 and 2 back in the day on our family PC. But I never played Warcraft 3. Strategy games just weren’t my thing, although I played StarCraft campaigns… Still waiting for World of StarCraft mmo blizz. Lol.
Prepurchased Warcraft 3 4k last year and can’t wait to play it and get the story’s behind the Warcraft heros. I also read a few Warcraft novels while I was incarcerated… Good stuff. I really like the human king Varian Wrynn, he’s a badass… Not a weakling, light inclined ike his son Anduin…
Warcraft has such a huge lore now, it’s IMHO bigger than Tolkien’s LotR series which is amazing as that’s the main series I compare any fantasy work to. Many great artists and writers have contributed to this constantly evolving and growing epic story. The lore is a big reason I can never stop playing wow, that and because as an ex-addict I need addictive things that are not harmful to me (except for neck and/or back pain from extended playing lol). More or less I don’t let the game or anything control my life anymore. I am the captain of my ship and I love my life these days. Hope you overcome your addictions OP and as always GLHF.

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Nothing is bigger than Tolkien’s work yet. You can write a song or converse in Quenya, but no nerds can have a chat in Taurahe as far as I know. The amount of background information and worldbuilding in the Silmarillion is mindboggling.

The lore is that some nerds really liked Everquest, polished it up, themed it with some shameless LOTR fan fiction, and sold millions.

That’s a tad unfair. Technically all modern fantasy works, with few exceptions, are derivative of Tolkien’s writing. Considering he pioneered the modern fantasy genre, and that a lot of his inspiration came from real-world mythology, taking inspiration from him is nothing to be ashamed off, and it is hardly shameless. It can easily be said that the Warcraft universe has plenty to distinguish it from Middle Earth.

So way back there were these tentacle monsters in outer space and they are evil and hide in the shadows. Then there we these guys called the Elemental Lords that were fighting over Azeroth. There wasn’t much on Azeroth right now just bugs, elementals, tentacles, and trolls lots of trolls.

Then there we these other guys called Titans and they didn’t like the tentacles and elemental lords so they jumped in and were like “hey now stop” and they didn’t stop. The titans came down and stepped in some trolls accidentally and went about killing tentacle dudes. So the tentacle guys on Azeroth got locked up and the Elemental Lords were told to “be good”.

Then the Titan’s biggest baddest boi Sargeras went crazy overkill on overkilling tentacles and started destroying worlds. He got really angry and grew a burning beard and then his friendos kicked him out of the Pantheon (cool kids club). But Sargeras was like “forget you guys!” and he left to outer space.

They locked the tentacles in fancy mansions and forgot about them. The titans dipped out. Slowly over millenia all sorts of meaty creatures start popping up on Azeroth and do things.

Meanwhile during all this some of the trolls mutated into night elves and built a kingdom full of pompous mage aristocrats. They had a Queen named Azshara and Sargeras would hit her up on discord. Problem was Azshara is a massive gold digger and she wanted Sargeras to come to Azeroth so she could put a ring on it and then later divorce for half.

They were installing a new pool when it exploded and broke Azeroth’s continent in pieces and creating new lands. Azshara got dunked and became a cat lady but instead of cats she has lots of fish.

Then Sargeras was like “nah im not done” and went to another planet and started recruiting people for his new cool kids club. He talked to these bros Valen and Kil’Jaeden and got KJ to join up but Valen didn’t like the health plan so he passed.

Mannoroth was like “hey can I have them orc?” nobody was using them so it was fine. He gets a party going and brings an entire keg of Ecto-Cooler! The orcs were like “where did you get this?! I thought they dont make it anymore!” and start chugging. Green drank makes orcs green and extra fightier. Mannoroth bored and takes a nap while Nerzul and Gul’Dan practice their magic tricks in the back yard.

Nerzul makes all these dead bois and Gul’Dan blows up the garage some freaking how. Papa Kil’Jaeden hears the ruckus and investigates the scene he is so angry that he turns Nerzul into a helmet and kicks Gul’Dan out to Azeroth to get a real job.

Gul’Dan brings the orc bois to Azeroth they fight the most pink meatiest race the “humans”. The orcs hang out have some babos one named “thrall” and pretty much just fight and die for awhile. Nerzul finds out he still has wifi so he starts hanging out on discord and starts talking with some edgelord mage named Kel’Thuzad. He shows KT how to make bone bois and fart bombs. They decide to start stinking up the place because it sucks being a helmet.

Shortly after Thrall gets the Doomhammer and builds a horde of good orcs. He meets the trolls and kick it off and then later meet up with these cow dudes and they hit it off too!

Kil’Jaeden not happy with the progress of Azeroth sends some more demon guys to try and take it over, three dread lords : Red, Green, and Purple. They use the prank war of Kel’Thuzad to weaken Azeroth so the demons can take over. They work on summoning Archimonde which works and he blows up Dalaran when he gets there.

Nerzul and Kel’Thuzad’s prank fest continues with them turning a kingdom into bone bois. The prince of this kingdom Arthas fights the prank war as much as he can. He travels to a frozen land called Northrend to find a dank sword to beat the bone bois. Arthas finds the sword and rolls need, beats Muradin who rolled a 36, and takes the epic Frostmourne for himself.

Meanwhile again the Night elves aren’t happy that the orcs moved into their neighborhood. They call the cops when they see them chopping trees and their big daddy Cenarius shows up and stomps em. The baddest orc boi Grom finds a pool of demons blood and after making sure its pure decides to drink it to beat up Cenarius. After the beat down Mannoroth shows up and hes like “guess whos blood is wild berry flavored?” and Grom is like “aww man”. Thrall finds out and is angry they both go and kill Mannoroth.

So the demons need to burn this big tree in Kalimdor and the orcs, humans, and night elves all team up and stop it. They slow the big demon boss Archimonde down enough so Malfurion can play his horn triggering all the wisps to bite Archie which blows him up.

Then Arthas and Illidan fight at the frozen throne and here we are!

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wow. That summary is pretty good… Some events are out of order, but still a pretty good summary.

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Dude, that’s the best lore sumbup I ever read bro, you should make videos, reminds me of the Garbage guys YouTube stuff. Pure awesome! Thanks for that :smile:

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You could read Christie Golden’s books to learn about it, but then you would have to read some of the worst writing the world has ever known. Good Luck!

Pandarean were comic relief and a fun addition to WC3, they were really never meant to be anything more than that.

It would be like making a movie based off C3PO.

And thats the whole point, they ran out of stories to tell, so they just started pandering to the playerbase.

“They like Pandarean right? Lets just givem them Pandarean”

“They wanted to go back to a WC2 storyline…TIME TRAVEL!”

“Illidan was polled as being one the favourite villians right? despite killing the f4ck out of him, lets just lolressurect him!”