What tier was the longest to the winner?
Also another question. How do these top guild afford to do this? I mean personally. Do they schedule off 2-3 weeks off from their jobs? What happens if it takes longer than when vacation is scheduled? Do they start raiding only at night?
Weren’t people stuck on Four Horsemen in the original Naxx for like… months?
Yeah some of the old bosses from Classic and TBC stayed alive for months after they were released.
But back then it wasn’t a paying job to stream your boss kill. At least I don’t think it was.
In the modern area of raid teams raiding non-stop 16+ hours a day?
Tomb of Sargerus.
The way SotFO is going though it’s going to blow way past that. KJ was actually reached week 1 in that raid. We are halfway through week 2 and nobody has killed boss 8 of 11 yet.
And yes these people take 2-3 weeks vacation (from work and spouse/kids/family obligations) to do this.
Apparently Mythic KJ took ~25Days to dead from raid open. Which was a major contrast to Guldan and Xavius which both went down very quickly.
That said I don’t think anyone has used the words “Mathematically impossible” yet…
I have heard the top guilds pay salaries and the players between streaming/youtube and their being paid for being a part of Liquid/echo/whoever don’t have regular jobs. Anymore it isn’t really a job just during the race, these guys keep so many characters geared to switch to as mains for the next tier if splits go a certain way that is sort of a job year round now.
Ouro and C’Thun in AQ 40 were unkillable because of some major bugs. Blizzard was very slow at fixing things back then. Heck even the majority of Tempest Keep was unkillable for the same reason.
That’s also fairly recent because these guilds didn’t stream progression until Uldir.
And it’s not just about work, it’s fully ignoring family, spouse, kids, relatives, etc for 2-3 weeks.
I don’t know how they do that. But I’m also 37 with a wife and 3 1/2 yr old child. I couldn’t see ignoring them for a month.
To be fair, there are regular jobs out there that require time away from home for long periods of time. Folks who work on oil platforms come to mind. Even soldiers now that I mention it.
People who have been playing like that all along may very well have that sort of relationship where the spouse supports their goals. Or they may not even have a family to support.
Because the fights are actually good and hard, not just a math problem that requires 99.9% optimization.
2-3 weeks every 8 months to a year is a small sacrifice to make for how large a door even being associated with these guilds can give you. Most of these players stream for a living now.
A soldier is doing something for society. A family making that sacrifice is admirable. Not ppl ignoring their family for a video game.
RWF wasn’t really an actual thing until Legion/BFA, but I recall Al’akir (Tier 11, which was the tier with Throne/Blackwing Descent/BoT) taking nearly three months to die on 25 Heroic because you literally couldn’t do the first phase with all 25 people participating.
That said, this RWF is definitely going to be the longest one since the start of BFA where it became an actual community-run event.
Most of these guilds are sponsored by big organizations like Team Liquid, SK, Golden Guardians, etc. and Echo/Method are their own organizations. These organizations pay a lot of money since the RWF generates them a ton of revenue through a variety of means. Moreover, a lot of their players are also streamers who make their own income as a result. As such, the people who raid in these guilds play World of Warcraft professionally. There is no scheduling vacation time because this is their job, just as someone who competes in League of Legends or Street Fighter or CS;GO or any other number of esports does it professionally.
Yeah things really changed in BFA when guilds started streaming progression. That lead to these sponsorships for entire teams not just 4-5 members streaming for a living.
It’s a lot different now than the pre-BFA race era.
The amount of prep keeps going up. During heroic week they ran 40 split raids. And more splits each mythic week.
They have everyone in the same room now for easier communication.
They have a “coach” 21st man raid leading without having to simultaneously play.
They have add on authors on staff for custom addon creation.
It reminds me a bit of how many years ago professional athletes had regular jobs during the off season. Now it’s a year round 24/7 huge business and constant training, improving, etc.
These people work for the corporation that mythic guilds are. They earn a salary and most of them use the WFR to boost their streaming subs. Long gone are the raiders that did this for the joy of doing this.
That’s somehow disheartening
Hardly. There’s MAYBE eight guilds in the entire world that do this; everyone else raids because they want to.
I am talking about the world first race, not just raiding.