I’ve had a blast with Warmode this xpac. I think it’s one of the few good things about BFA.
Still, people complain.
So, serious question: What’s the issue?
EDIT: So, here are some of the complaints people are saying in the thread:
- People don’t like it’s interaction with flying.
- People think WM has subdivided the player base too far (sharding).
- By subdividing the players, large realms (i.e. Emerald Dream) have taken a hit to the community aspect of the game. Being forced to work together was one of the things that made Vanilla great, and this includes the classic wPvP system; WM removed this necessity by allowing someone to opt out, thus removing a causal force driving the PVP community.
- Faction balancing is an issue.
- In purely economic terms, benefits (especially at max level) aren’t worth the risk. Unless you’re leveling, everything is easier with it off, unless your are actively looking for a fight.
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Okay, I may have added that last one on my own.
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Killed my server community by putting me in shards with strangers from other realms that I may or may not ever see again
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I myself have enjoyed wm. I have run into the same people multiple times in open world. Only gripe I have is that I have to go pick a fight with alliance…I wish there was more around.
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The swarm mentality is everywhere. Adding rewards to it caused people who normally wouldnt use it to turn it on. As a result Horde have the larger size so they get to do things pretty much uncontested but Alliance are mostly outnumbered so they turn it off.
Here in the United Fricken States of America we fought a damn war for the Freedom of Speech! What kind of speech? Complaints!!
Complaining is in our blood, son. We ain’t truly happy, unless we got something to be unhappy about!
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To hate like this, is to be happy forever.
The sharding never seemed to balance wm populations right. Usually way more horde than alliance, but occasionally i would see nothing but alliance and no horde. And people you were trying to catch to fight would often phase out.
I also don’t like how groups works with war mode. Back in Legion if I joined a group that was on a pvp realm, I would also get flagged for pvp. If I switched to a non-pvp realm group, I would remain flagged for pvp for 5 min but after that I would be not pvp anymore. They should have done the same thing with war mode. If I’m in warmode and join a non-warmode group, I can help them summon! Or fight the same damn world boss! Or interact to trade them something if they were a guildie.
That part of war mode is a god damn hassle.
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I see this a lot but I see the same horde pvping in Nazjatar every single day. Know their names now, who they run around with, and how likely they are to have more hiding waiting for you. So I dont ever understand this argument.
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If you see it a lot, then perhaps a lot of people are having the experience. And perhaps some people have your experience, too. Understand now?
Not really, im mostly just wondering if people arent paying attention or if you are mainly seeing warmode hoppers who dont leave it on all the time. It would be harder to recognize ,at least for me, same names in a crowd of people sharding in and out. The big number of “randos” would kinda over take the others.
What im getting at is there are still people you will run into all the time like it used to be but there is also an influx of others from different shards. You are from ED so it was probably a whole different ball game over there with community though so I cant speak on that.
PvE rewards encourage people who don’t want to PvP to turn on WM. WM replaced PvP servers, and PvP servers offered no rewards other than the fun of world PvP. Not really an issue with WM itself, but the rampant cross realm grouping makes for unnatural PvP. Players pop into existence from servers you’ve never heard of. Johnny the dragonslayer can get a raid full of players for his world quest within minutes, with no travel time.
WPVP on PvP servers was better.
Well you are horde. Playing horde in warmode is playing warmode on easy mode.
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I had a blast with PVP this patch too, as cringe as those cryptic league post are the community is fun place to do pvp as alliance. I do like having the danger of getting gank and collecting bounty in open world. I just wish more people would do it on the alliance. Having a four way split in pvp could balance things out for world pvp. 
(Where are the Heroes of the storm emojis blizzard)
I’ve had fun in WM too if/when I feel like playing WM. I really don’t get the people who complain it isn’t good. Lots of trouble you can stir up in WM if you get fun from that. Also I bet you could find ‘non-strangers’ to fight if you play enough. I think the prob with people complaining about ‘random sharding’ is they don’t play enough… lol
I enjoy WM. My only complaint is that I don’t see enough people online / playing in WM.
i think the only overall complaint is sharding.
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Playing anything as Horde is easymode.
Is it our fault we’re just better at everything?
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Actually, I suppose it is!
It is definitely easier to quest on my belf than the human. But it’s also boring on the belf because there aren’t enough targets! Well actually I have fun on both! 
Yes! Warcraft won’t have been a thing if you’ll would have stayed on your side of the portal!!!
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Emerald Dream isn’t (wasn’t) like other servers. It’s an RP server that was previously an RP-PVP server. The sense of immersion that came from that has been diminished some because warmode let some of the community opt out of pvp (they used to not have a choice on this server), while also making it easy to bring in massive raids of non-ED players.
That’s what Griefs is referring to.
Yes, you’ll still run into “regulars” in your shards (even on ED), but gone are the days of people on RP-PVP servers knowing literally everyone they might see on a given day.
It’s got its ups and downs, but strong community-oriented servers like ED were very affected by warmode
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