Or does it not really matter in the end? Been running 2/2/6 and have only had one tier token drop for me the first week of Vault. The last 4 weeks not a single Death Knight/ Demon Hunter/Warlock token has dropped.
I’ve been trying to be patient and just shrug off the RNG, but two nights ago we ran a quick 8/8 normal and hunter/mage/druid dropped off every single boss. One of our raiders got his 5 piece from that one run on his Hunter alt and here I am trying for 4 piece still after a month and a half. That kinda sent me a bit over the edge
I’m just wondering if it may be more beneficial to run in larger group?
RNG is RNG. My Preservation Evoker has been running with a group of 20+ and she’s only gotten one piece of tier so far. And she got that from the vault.
Now my priest who’s been running with a similar sized group has had 4 set since week 2. I’ve even already replaced a normal piece with a heroic piece because 2 of those tokens dropped last night on heroic Dathea and there were only 2 of us in the group that could even use it. Meanwhile others in the group still don’t have their 4 set yet.
You win some and you lose some. It just sucks royally to be on that loosing streak.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think they have changed raid loot drop percentages since Nathria… which is 2 items for 10, 4 items for 20, and I believe the amount of loot between is sort of RNG.
And I think Argowal is correct about the way it works in practice:
Loot drops are 20% chance at loot per person (having people saved complicates things). If you bring 10 people that brings it to 200% or a guaranteed 2 pieces of loot. At 14 people we are at 280% or guaranteed 2 pieces and 80% chance at a third.
Ideally being in a multiple of 5 makes it easiest for things which is why I don’t get the fascination with 2/3/9 as that composition has a 20% chance at not dropping a 3rd piece of gear.
I’ve been running with a 30 man group and we see 2-3 tokens drop per tier boss kill, typically. Only downside with a group that size is that some fights get a lot more challenging because their mechanics scale to group size.
It’s a guaranteed token drop per 10 people and one piece of loot non-tier per 5. If you run with 10 eligible people on a tier token boss, you will get 1 tier and 1 non tier piece of loot. 15 will be one tier and 2 non-tier pieces of loot. 20 will be 2 tier tokens and 2 non-tier pieces of loot. Anything less than 10 after the first set of 10 for the tier piece boss, still has a chance to drop an extra tier piece, but its not guaranteed.
The rare pieces from what I’ve seen are an extra chance that doesn’t count with the raid size. On my last heroic run, the first boss only dropped 3 pieces of loot for 15 people and then the council kill, we got 3 pieces plus the trinket. I’ve seen this happen a couple of times with the bosses that have a rare piece of loot attached to them.