The game is entirely about glamour and gposes and the player base is way too soft. I don’t think it’s ever necessary to be rude/mean to people in a game, but even if you mention to some one they are underperforming you will get banned. You’re not allowed to have dps meters and any mention gets you banned. You tell some one they’re pulling low dps and try to help them? They can easily report you and get you banned even if you were legit trying to help.
THIS!!! They’re so full of themselves because they think they are more “polite,” but it’s a manufactured politeness that exists out of fear of being banned for upsetting some one. They aren’t any less toxic, just way more passive-aggressive about it.
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I’ve tried playing FFXIV on and off since 2010, before ARR, with ARR, after ARR, etc. It always fails to hook me for a few reasons.
One is the world. It’s too cutesy, too “kawaii”, too Japanese in aesthetic for my taste. It’s all too cute, too clean, too polite, too ordered.
Another is the pacing. It’s slow. I am not an endgame-focused player, and I don’t “race to level cap”, but I find the pacing of FFXIV far too slow for my tastes. Not the combat, mind you (or at least, not only that), but the pacing and flow of the game – it’s too slow. There is too much running around (even with the crystals).
Another is the story and the seriousness. FFXIV takes itself and its story very seriously, kind of like Everquest did/does. It gets tedious to me – it strains credulity and gets tedious. That kind of dedication to seriousness in storytelling works for me in single player RPGs, but in an MMORPG, where it’s quite obviously going to be much more attenuated of a story to begin with due to the persistent world (not the case in a SP game), I much prefer an approach to story that combines a serious plot at the core with a liberal amount of humor at its own expense. WoW used to hit this mark almost perfectly, and still has some moments of humor here and there, but FFXIV is just … ugh, it’s so ridiculously serious about itself for being a persistent world game with cat girls and playable playboy bunnies.
Another is that I am a player who actually likes having alts – that is, different characters. I like that they look different, move differently, feel different to play. I dislike FFXIV’s “all on one character” approach. One can have alts in FFXIV, of course, but the game does not support this in any meaningful way, and things that are basic as between alts in all other games are simply not supported in FFXIV “because that’s not the way you’re supposed to play”. I don’t like that.
Another is the “mandatory story on rails” approach. Which includes dungeons. Again, I am not one of those players who is a spacebar jockey, and I do follow the questlines in games I play, I do not skip them. But I don’t like a story to be mandatory, and I don’t like it to be tracked, and I don’t like it to have mandatory dungeons in order to advance. This is all very linear, very controlled, very authoritarian. I much prefer options, choices, being able to go and do what I want, not have to follow a linear story to level, etc. Yes, WoW has moved to this with the initial character leveling in SL, and I do not think it was a good move – WoW is better when it gives players options to reach goals the way they wish to, rather than mimicking Square’s approach of the player following Square’s path, and that’s it.
None of that means WoW doesn’t have lots of issues currently (I raised one of those issues right in the last paragraph, and there are many others). But FFXIV just doesn’t work for me – and I am right “up its alley” in terms of the type of WoW player they would love to attract – casual, solo oriented, story follower, like exploring and crafting and so on. But the game just grates on me after a while, really.
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Yeesh, this seems like the FF Dev team is being paid by their government to give Black Market Whalers a side gig.
Almost as if Japan and their FF pets pay people to Troll on WoW forums.
They talk about “coast” and “whales”… oh my.
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Because apparently Blizz sent out questionnaires if players are doing so. It’s not the first time blizz has done questionnaires.
It is very odd.
I have no interest in Classic or FF. But they come to Retail GD to cry and demand interest in their game?
I would never go to their forums… But they come to mine?
Their game must suck.
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I believe it’s the white knights of ions cult thats been trolling. Wow players are known and horrendous. The environment from this forum setting is way different than over there. I am not subbed to 14 but one can view their forums and not have to pay like here. Nice accusation but you are incorrect.
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I am a WoW player, and not a fan this ion you speak of.
And I disagree.
It is rather curious how you FF Spam Bots seem to be here and not… there.
If your fantasy game gets you off, why would you be nagging nother contented folk? It seems your game is so empty, you have more fun trolling the forums of another game.
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And yet you’re paying to post here on a subject you have no firsthand experience with? Seems legit.
Somehow, I always knew.
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FFXIV sure is a game. I enjoyed it at times, but I wouldn’t say it’s the best thing ever. If WoW had better updates, systems, and story I would honestly try to get my friend back into it and other people. But, that’s because I honestly enjoyed my time with WoW.
FFXIV is just diet WoW to me. A substitute when WoW is in it’s WoD or BFA type expansion.
That’s all FFXIV will ever be to me.
While, yes, the community and devs are better, it doesn’t make it a better game to me.
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What’s stopping me from playing FF14 is that I have every class I want at level 80 for now, will level other jobs casually when there’s nothing else to do, so now all I have left to do is 9.1 in wow coming out in just over a week
let’s see: boring repeatable dungeons, boring super long msq, 1 spammable ability for the first 50 levels for every class, no pvp, drought of new things for the last year and wait until november, nothing worthy doing in the open world and spamming roulettes at fc house. the only game that has majong because the game gets boring
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Again another assuming statement. There’s an old saying about assuming
BTW, I didn’t divulge if I started playing there or not. My prerogative.
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Over the last 3 years I have tried it a couple of times and I just can not stay with it for more than a couple of days, maybe a week. There is just something about that game that rubs me the wrong way. Honestly, there have only been two MMOs that drew my attention away from WoW since I started playing at launch. Aion was big for me, I loved that game but NCsoft ran it into the ground. Then SWToR, amazing story but outside of that it is just boring.
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All I’ll say is that it does get better. But that initial investment of time and patience is nevertheless a huge ask, and I don’t blame anyone for running out of steam.
It gets better, then it falls off, then it gets better again. An emotional rollercoaster that’ll make you slightly shift in your seat.
Just remember every time you post about this, WoW has received more ‘awards and acclaim’ than anything XIV could ever hope to fathom at this point. Just leave, forever. Please.
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Stormblood has great elements, when they’re taken in isolation. Unfortunately, it’s disjointed, so the end product is not better than the sum of its parts. But is still better than the vast majority of narratives you’ll find in MMOs.
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I used to say that. Then wow kept getting worse and worse. I’d rather give my time to a fun MMO than one that flat out antagonizes it’s players.
Going from Nidhogg to Zenos was a step down. Nidhogg was a mustache twirling villain, like most of FFXIV villains, but at least you can understand why he’s doing the thing he’s doing.
Zenos is apart of the empire, is a mustache twirling villain, and wants to destroy stuff because, reasons. If they focused more of Yotsuyu, than I think it would’ve been more interesting.
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