My money is on WoW tbh.
If you play Diablo Immortal and WoW you probably don’t have money to bet.
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Your mom. Heh
You underestimate Diablo Immortal. It’s been out for what, a week? And there are people who spent 30-40k USD on it already.
Absolute BIS in Diablo Immortal costs upwards of 100k USD.
diablo immortal is the most p2w game out next to lost ark wow is p2w through carries in any content your ant they arnt the same thing.
I read Wowhead about their topic on Diablo Immortal P2W.
I understand Blizz want to defend this game as it got tarnished when they made a stupid mistake of announcing this mobile game on Blizzcon on Diablo stage full of pc players.
They explained that this game is free to play and it can be played without paying. You can pay to get better loots but it wont let you skip the game. You still have to beat it. It’s on the player if he wish to go on and on paying for better loots. And there is still an option to not pay. They said in the end, if the whale keeps on paying and paying, the whale is not the winner. Blizzard would be the winner.
To me, DI is just like Diablo2R or Diablo2 which has trading and there are external websites where you could use real money for the trade. Diablo 2 trading is like the old Diablo 3 with Real Money Auction House RMAH. But D3 RMAH is more secured becoz it’s Blizzard. So with this, DI is just like D3 with RMAH. RMAH in D3 was later abolished becoz according to Blizz, they want people to spend more time playing the game than spend more time on RMAH.
I loved the new D3. But I cant deny that I also liked D3 with RMAH then with me not paying anything. I did try to pay $20 once but it didnt get me that far. Instead, I started crafting my own gear which is a bit fun but it didnt get me that far too. When RMAH got abolished, the rare legendaries and the set gear started to drop, that’s when I started to really enjoy the game.
I played D2R. I never made a single trade and I beat the hardest difficulty in about a month. I never need a very rare item or runes to beat that game. While I was progressing my way, I honestly enjoyed the game.
On DI, I might have fun playing it without paying but it may take a while for me to reach the hardest difficulty. I might get stucked like on old D3 with RMAH. I might try it when I upgrade my cellphone very soon. It’s free anyway.
But my hopes are more on Diablo4. Good thing they gave us the release date somewhere in 2023. Hope they would give us enough time to enjoy it before they release Dragonflight.
1/10 bait 
People over emphasize the importance of RMT in D:I. Unquestionably it is P2W, but I have not seen any restrictions on progression requiring real money purchases.
If anything, I am surprised by the amount of players I have seen complaining that you cant buy character/paragon levels.
There ain’t a fine lines with P2W: Ya either are or ya ain’t.
Ya can do sos on boths, although in WoW ya at least guaranteed to get your big BoEs ins the AH, moreso than a 5* Gems ever existin’ in ya reality.
Legit had a flashback to Hell on Wheels where Thor Gunderson says “Moral Mathematics”
Looks like the mods missed one when they were cleaning up Tupac’s trash from this weekend.
Flag and wave, boys.
One and done.
No. It will be impossible. It is 100% pay to win. You cannot earn what you need to upgrade your gear.
If you even reach level 60 without buying a battlepass that gives you the increased xp you need to get there in a reasonable period of time, you will find that you are placed with payers, so you can admire their powerfully enhanced gear and its appearance. However, they will drop group rather than play with someone who, like you, is unwilling to invest in their progress.
Anyone remember how in the first pass of D3 with RMAH you would only get drops you couldn’t use (always not your personal core stat I believe) so you would need to AH them? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Now I’m gonna go beat myself in the head with a hammer so I can forget, abolishing that was the biggest save of any game I’ve ever seen. It got me back to playing and I even bought the expansions ultimately. Just had no reason to continue past capping every class I enjoyed non-seasonally. Little tweaks and starting over never appealed to me, but at least it’s no RMAH.
I don’t personally see what stinks about DI. Yes, it’s P2W, but as the company themselves admitted the real winner is not he who pays the most. I can easily adjust my prospects so that, say, whatever I can get for free is my bis and the rest doesn’t exist. That way whales literally pay for my free time.
I mean I’m really starting to think the people who get twisted over the concept have too much invested in being “teh best” in whatever game they’re playing. You can be more than good enough, but if you can’t be “best” without paying they don’t want anything to do with it. Adjust your expectations and relax.
I think Diablo Immortal is much more severe, many “free to play” phone games are terrible about p2w.
There is no difference in xp rewards between the free battle pass and paid battle pass so I am not sure what you are talking about
It is hard to tell who has paid and who hasn’t. Typically, you only know if they are of the appropriate level and combat score for the content you are doing.
I have to question if have ever even played the game or are just relaying what you heard other people say
WoW is more pay to win.
Diablo Immortal has a gear cap. But I can spend endless amounts of gold in goldshire on moon guard.
I actually question the depth of your own research, since you seem to be unaware of how the cash shop works.
It sounds like you have never done any research, are flying on your own sense of “discovery”, and haven’t even reached the first paywall.
But we do often hear that it isn’t fair to read reviews and make decisions about blizzard games based on what other users before us have found out. This is a very special criterion for blizzard games, by users who would never dream of buying something off Amazon without reading the reviews.
Different kind of “boosting” dude.