What Would You Consider the Last ‘Good’ Expansion?

Wrath of the lich king

It was very pretty.
Questing was top notch (though it still fell into the “you arent allowed to accept this quest until its yellow” trap which annoys me greatly).
Dailies were good, plentiful and unrestricted (it was really easy to grind faction rep, friendship was a different beast).
It was the final expansion before they started locking flying behind achievement walls that couldnt be completed for a year.
Plenty of fun little toys and trinkets (like my turnip punching bag).
Never did any group content in it so i cant speak to that

1 Like

I played legion up to mythic ToS.

It was fun till I realized the gear I got became meaningless after a month or two.
What made me see that was one of my younger brothers started playing.
Myself and my other brother played when legion launched. With in month of him playing he had everything I had. I and my other brother played almost a year or more. Became meaningless to go the extra whatever.

It felt like the time spent became worthless.

Then one of my brothers told me Vanilla is coming back. So, myself and him jumped to a pserver to get ready. My other brothers found out we were on pserver and couldn’t hang passed 30 die constantly. They are mythic/heroic raiders. Lol. So, played for a year did some raids got two 60s.

Played BFA for bit and now just waiting.

Uldir was a joke maybe mythic it was a challenge but what i seen in normal or heroic was meh.

The last expansion before every class got pruned into the dirt.
First expansion with challenge modes.
Good raids and PVP seasons.
No garrisons.

MoP was the last good expansion for me. I liked the questing in it more than the previous expansions and the severe pruning didn’t happen yet. This was also the last expansion where profession items had reasonable mat requirements.

Also, while there were a lot of dailies, if you missed them you could just pick them up again the next day. Unlike today (and Legion) where if you are working on a certain rep you only have three days to do it and if you miss it you have to wait about four days to get it again. If you do complete the emissary, you have to wait about a week before it returns.

Oh god, so much this. I absolutely DESPISE legion and bfa professions. 3 types of ore, each with 4 different spawn types (rich/normal deposit/seam), with 3 ranks of gathering each, to rank up is completely RNG, and if you are only rank 1 you’ll get at best 3 ore per node. But wait, theres more! To craft something there are also 3 ranks for the pattern, to unlock additional ranks you need to rep grind, skill up, or PvP (why???) and (just as an example) the rank 3 pattern will reduce the ore requirements from 26 (rank 1) to 16 (rank 3). 16 freaking ore to make 1 damn knife. Beyond dumb.

i’ll go watch a vid on the subject of antorus. now ya got me curious

It was Wrath for me, with a nod to Cata once I really let myself get into it as well. Its also a personal memory because I got my World Events achieve during Cata, and of course the beautiful violet proto drake, so good memories there. Everything since has been a let down.

I tried to come back during Legion, but just as I hit 110 and started to clear zones and finally got some fun (wanted that void elf mount!), all attention turned to BFA, so I stopped and I’m now just trawling forums and YT till classic comes out (I started in tbc)

2 Likes

I personally had a lot of fun in WotLK - I achieved way more in that expansion in regards to progression relative to other guilds on the server. But playing with a really good group of players isn’t enough for me to consider it the last good expansion.

Wrath’s first raid was a Naxx rerelease and it was farmed out way before the next raid was ready. Ulduar was great but Blizz hyped that dungeon up to be a challenge that most guilds would struggle to get past the Flame Leviathan encounter (this was grossly overstated as that encounter was pretty damn easy).

TotGC was another lame raid that lasted way too long and ICC came out staggered which was a complete slap in the face to all the guilds who had been waiting so long to get in there.

WotLK was also the beginning of the ‘play 5 alts and maximize your daily grind’ mentality. Also the whole ‘pull the whole instance and AoE everything down’ strat.

Looking back on Wrath, it was pretty detrimental to how WoW had played up until that point. I’d say TBC was the last good expansion. I still think ZA is one of the best designed raids in terms of layered difficulty (without the need for 4 versions with bumped up ilvl reqs).

Wrath did have some good music. I’ll give it that.

1 Like

I wouldn’t say it was “really good” as it still contained most of the major guttings of Cataclysm, but it did take a few major steps back from the brink and didn’t feel quite as on-rails as its predecessor.

It was also gorgeous to look at, and I liked the Asian theme. Wasn’t offended by pandas like many.

2 Likes

I never understood the hate for pandas, in a game with walking cows, fish people and chickens for some reason pandas are going too far?

3 Likes

That’s because it was a great expansion. Much in the same vein as Wrath. You had enough content for the entire spectrum of difficulty. The theme, visuals, and music were top-notch. Pandaren are also a great race.

2 Likes

I liked wrath, but I fully agree about expansions just being the expansion zones.

the lore was great. the isle of thunder and timeless isle were interesting and fun and the throne of thunder was a great raid.

The last Good expac IMO was Wrath of the lich king, they did add some bad stuff to it eventually and re cycling and REMOVING old content was a BAD thing but it was still good, Cata outside of the properly tuned heroics that got nerfed fast was trash, Hello panda Island hug along with pokemon was a freaking meme and april fools joke made into an actual expansion /puke Snore more in Garrisonor speaks for itself, I did not play legion or Barf on Azeroth.

Not everything. WotLK didn’t gut the talent trees.

1 Like

true. but it started

  1. homogenization
  2. easy mode aoe tank and spank dungeons
  3. leveling being nerfed into oblivion.
  4. automated grouping systems for content beyond battlegrounds.
    etc

Regardless Northrend had the best lore in my opinion, I enjoyed questing through it and doing the occasional dungeon, so yes, many people including myself really enjoyed WotLK for different reasons.

1 Like

Absolutely, I just choked on the “literally everything” part.

i’m not sure how wrath dungeons were enjoyable beyond feeling like superman straight out of the gate.