does it need a full re-design
the warrrior class is still playing the same as like, cataclysm expac
Sounds like a better question to ask in midnight with all the redesigns
thats fair. could be good for warrior
It would need to become better than a rogue.
There are specific situations where having a warrior on your roster is still good tho because it’s been brought a few times. But it really is limited by it’s toolkit and damage profile.
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For warr to shine you need sp to be more meta. 
Also this :
is so crimminaly incorrect it hurts to read. Current war (wod onwards) has nothing to do with old warrior design except icons and names of the abilities. If you dont believe me you can go and try mop warr, which is for me still one of the best designed pvp spec there was ever in terms of fun. The butchering that happened in wod and mainly legion made it one of the worst. Imho.
a war team made it into top 6 ?
you also have to remember that half the teams in AWC are comp locked. most of them don’t have reliable mages/locks, some teams don’t even have rogues, let alone warrior/dk etc… then u also have to consider that even if your team does have a warrior, like drake can play warrior, the opponent you’re fighting is rps ? rmp ? do you even have someone on your team that can make a comp w war that plays well into that ? or like putting your main rogue on mage for rmp,why?? back to the comp locked problem.
could’ve been fine into some teams but the teams that won have too much comp diversity, at least among better comps, to lose to war blind picks.
warrior has no real crowd control so it doesnt really enable caster melee x to play the game the way rogue or feral does so the only way its going to be good in awc is if its damage is completely broken overtuned like when execute was killing people by accident early last season. Also double melee warrior comps that own on ladder are too easily exploitable by good mage teams in awc.
i literally said deep AWC. not cup 1 early series games where ret war gets picked into stuff like double BM hunter MW.
what bubblebud said is the best way to put it. hope midnight pruning changes comps around. gimme some warr/lock again like the good ol days.
yesterday ? 
its not like they’re not gunna be back for the other cups and suddenly have non-war comps 
if “deep” doesn’t mean top 6 (overall finished tied 5th) i mean if they didn’t have to round 1 vs a grands team they could’ve been top 4 ?
war team probably won’t win unless they win the blind and have a good countercomp for the counterpick instead of just forcing 
Splay brain really going into overdrive on this one.
wmpala, wps, KFC & TSG in specific metas, kitty, wlp/d are all comps that work because every combination of 2 in those comps synergizes really well and removes each others weaknesses. WLP/D is an example of the warlock being immortal with the healer, warrior being immortal with the healer, and then warrior guarantees the coil goes with storm bolt on every go, which is what the lock wants.
It’s not saying that rogue or feral may make the comp better, but to say warrior doesn’t enable its caster is crazy, because warrior caster comps, when the warrior can be immortal with a specific healer, are almost always the best comps in the game. Like even if we talk purely on the AWC level, if whaazz and merce played only WLP on cup 2, they’d still easily get top 3 in AWC playing without rogue/feral. Would rogue/feral make their lives easier? Sure, but that’s tuning issues, not class issues.
Its literally vanilla design mechanically. And they are doubling down on the philosophy for Midnight lmao.
Sweeping Strikes (Midnight)
Instant 30 sec cooldown
Your next 12 damaging single-target abilities hit 1 additional target within 8 yds for 75% damage. Lasts 30 sec.
When was that mechanic last in the game? wrath?
Also DBTS/Ignore Pain was made into a choice node. (Ret, the spec with most Def CDs loses nothing btw)
Removed both Avatar and Battlefield Commander is no longer is a root remover, so 2 root removers gone. Have to play gnome even more now.
Removed Unhinged as a capstone for Bladestorm, so Bladestorm will do no damage again. Only left the boring worthless PvE Aoe capstone.
Hamstring still on GCD and worthless.
I don’t think blizzard is designing Arms around PvP at all.
They don’t design any spec around PvP though. I’m sure Arms will be fine as it always is.
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Says the r*t player losing literally 0 zero CDs.
This sounds like self fulfilling prophecy astrology shenanigans
Deep down, they all know that. But what would the forums be without at least one weekly warrior cope thread?
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rofl exactly what I mean. literal primitive design.
manifesting warrior buffs that we both need and deserve
The best warrior in NA never come this forum
I mean that one unpopular Chinese guy
happigirl?
also why would anybody come here
yeah JessicĂŁjin / isloney / bigjbs
plus he can’t afford to fly to the US for the AWC lol