This PVE gear BiS for PvP has to stop
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The problem was you couldnât try pvp as a pve player without starting from the bottom. Itâs not a good system. PvP gear is also the BiS for arena in most cases. Youâre not going to find better trinkets and they most often have the exact stats and azerite traits you want for pvp.
Nice bait though.
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This is the dumbest thing Iâve ever read in regards to BFA. Lingering sporepods say whatâs up
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Blame Ion, he kept getting lost looking for pvp vendors and he hated having his bags full of pvp gear.
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if only I didnât need to do M+ to get revitalizing voodoo totem so I could pvp with it 
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There are outliers, but really, itâs a 5 man dungeon item. Itâs not like you have to join a raiding guild, you join a pug and finish UR+10 a few times. If you canât pug ur+10 you have no reason to concern yourself with BiS pvp stuff because youâre just a bad player. PvP is much harder than UR+10 at the level where BiS actually matters.
Thatâs not what you said though. You said PVP gear was BiS for PVP. There are far stronger PVE items that work better in PVP
Gettiku Cut of Death says hi
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That bags full of gear thing is weird to me. Right now my main (this character) has lots of extra pieces that I use to round out azerite sets for different specs. Going to the azerite reforge each time I switch specs (sometimes multiple times in the same hour depending on what Iâm doing) is even more burdensome than carrying extra pieces. So this is still a thing.
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You cherry picked some BS examples that maybe arenât even true. Gladiatorâs maledict is enough to force a trinket being used on its own, and then you would want a survivability one if youâre an actually smart player that is good enough for BiS to matter.
Sure, there are outliers that maybe are slightly better for specific classes, but why would that be a problem? Just do the 5 man lol. Itâs worth it for the pvp performance, otherwise you must either just be too bad to complete the mythic, or not committed enough to pvp to actually want the performance. Sounds like youâre a real complainer.
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I kinda made the whole âbags full of gearâ up. But it does add to the point of how ridiculous the reasoning behind pvp vendors getting removed was.
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Hi Iâm Spacewaifuu. When Iâm not messing around in Prot during random BGs, I swap to arms and use my Gettiku Cut of Death I earned from PVE content as well as my Sporepods and Bloodthirsty Urchin.
I also use Dreamâs End which I got from heroic Zaq most of the time when I PVP, as well as Orgozoaâs Barb which have cool secondary effects.
Sounds like you just have no clue why PVP players hate the new system.
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ladies and gentleman, the new way to gear for PVP 
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Iâve actually seen that attributed to them more than once though, so while it might be an urban legend it might also be something youâre remembering without remembering.
The one about Ion getting lost looking for the pvp vendor is definity one I know might be an urban legend. But the whole âmeh bags are too fullâ is something just I made up.
you know what pairs really well with a maledict? A Lingering Sporepods! That way I can Maledict my enemy, then heal through their Maledict passively with my Underrot earned PVE gear 
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well they tried to lower the bar of entry for PvE players since the start of WoD, turns out they just donât want to PvP. The unlucky thing is now not ever PvP players want to PvP anymore.
Iâm betting anything I have that PvP would be much more healthy if resilience/PvP power was never removed from the game.
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Whatâs wrong with that though? âI have to do PvE content because powerful gear exists in it that doesnât exist reskinned and renamed from PvP vendorsâ?? There have always been outlier items that are especially strong in PvP from PvE. Weapons with unique on hit effects, and trinkets. Some others, but mostly weapons and trinkets.
Why is this a problem? Get good and seek power.
Which was good.
You also could not do the best PVE, without starting from the bottom in getting PVE gear (even if you had the best PVP gear.)
Your post is correct though, in that that is why Blizzard caved and did it. The PVE Raiders said, âWhat? We should also have gear that is really great for PVP, if we ever feel like slumming and doing itâŚ?â
I loved the Last Seasonâs Arena set (season one), on my Hunter in BC, for regular battleground Honor. As you got each subsequent piece, you felt way more powerful in PVP. Another great thing was, it was also fantastic and buff for regular Solo PVE (which is all I really did anyway.)
So I never had âbags full of gear.â I just wore that set all the time. I did the same thing on this character, in MoP, with that âlast seasons arena set, from regular battlegrounds.â It was not replaced until Timeless Isle, where I could get a regular Epic set much better for PVE (then the PVP set went in the bank.)
The reason why my Hunter, especially, liked the PVP gear was that as she got closer to a full set she could actually one on one PVP a mage or rogue and have a chance. That was an incredible feeling, the first time that happened in BC battlegrounds. Of course, then a couple of Alliance would ride by ignoring and then a couple of Horde guys would ride by and help the Horde dudeâŚ
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Legion wasnât like that for instanced pvp neither was WoD, at least as far as I could tell with WoD. World PVP is always derpy.
No u since you love the systems so much 
Pvp vendors with resillience gear was the best pvp year on wowâŚor pvp expansionâŚi donât remember how many years we use this feature in wow.
So, i like the idea to start from the bottom, farm honor doing some pvp , buy the first items that you can buy, then use this item with more honor point to get a better pvp item , then you start to be more resilient and powerfull in pvp, and in the end you start arena with the best honor pvp you can get then start to farm arena points for arena gearâŚafter that , you try to reach 2200+ to get the elite set.
This was the best year and way of pvp in wow. You have a meta to follow, a focus, a path to walkâŚ
Today this BS way to adquire pvp item, is randomized and not friendly, you need a bow , but the random item that comes in the list is a head.
So you need to do pve , you do a +10 key, one, two, three, four times and your bow didnât dropâŚall the time are wastedâŚ
this is fun to you guys ? really ?
They are forcing you to stay on wow using the RNG system in the pvp list or pve duns drops, and you are trying to say thatâs ok ? - âOH BLIZZARD HOW I LOVE THIS TIME WASTED IN THIS FOUR DUNGEONS, I LOVE IT, I LOVE TO NEED A BOW AND IâM VERY SATISFIED THAT DIDNâT DROP THIS TIME BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THIS DUNGEON AGAIN, I LOVE IT HMMMMMMMâ
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The pvp today suc*s
The rng today suc*s
The âno vendorâ thing suc*s
The pvp system suc*s
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