What was wrong with resilience, exactly?

  • What mechanical or balancing issue did resilience cause?
  • Why are people complaining about Mythic+ dungeons on the Arena forums?
  • Why isn’t PVP gear loaded with resilience as a way of rewarding PVPers for succeeding in what they want out of the game?
  • Why are high rated PVP rewards lesser in power than high difficulty PVE rewards of equal item level?

Something about not being able to use the same gear in PVE and PVP.

It wasn’t as good for PVE content, for sure. But each season brought new gear, which was perfectly fine for stepping into PVE content at an entry point. The biggest thing I remember back in BC and WotLK was people complaining about grinding out PVP midway through the season, or for a new alt.

Well there are plenty of catch up mechanics in play now (thanks game designers), and have you tried to PVP with a fresh 120 right now? lol its as bad as it was in BC. I greatly miss BC.

It was a great system and I miss it.

Wholehearted agree. :slight_smile: BC was my fav gear and way to gear. Fond memories.

Reasons I have been given about resil being removed were mostly PVE. PVErs wanted to be able to roam the world on pvp servers and join BGs/arena and still be strong against others without farming the appropriate pvp gear. It also stuck PVPers into a single way of playing and gearing instead of being able to do both fluidly. A lot of arguing about how things needed to be like ‘Vanilla’ aka people with legendary equips need to be able to destroy people.

Personally I would love to see resil back. The current PVE gear > PVP gear situation is not working. It could fix a lot of problems.

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There definitely should be separate gear. PVP gear for pvpers, and PVE for whatever PVE’ers do…that’s not my bag, baby.

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I do remember there being a sentiment on the forums where “top raiders” spend so much time managing their professions, alts, and mats, all for the sake of raiding, that they felt it was unfair they had to also focus so much more time that they - didn’t have - to be competitive in pvp.

Well, things have been helped out a lot by catch up mechanics. I think resil could make a come back. If that argument was valid then, it should be just as valid for me to say that I don’t have the time to focus on a 10+ player mythic raid for BiS. I’m an adult with a career now. Mythic dungeons - ok. But thats still not PVP content.

Some overlap is fun. Heroic Death Bringers Will on my warrior with armor pen was incredible fun. But I also had lower resil than others, so it was a glass cannon build.

I PvE’ed at least 3 times a week in TBC and found time to gear up for PvP.

Back then there was BiS for both.

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