That it had to be turned into some garbage bleed ability? They took class fantasy and threw it into the garbage.
Barbed Shot does 500 damage over 8 seconds. What is even the point of that?
You realize Barbed Shot applies a stacking attack speed buff to your pet, right? And Dire Beast is still there as a talent.
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Barbed shot is essential to maintaining your DPS. Keep it at 3 stacks = higher DPS.
The bleed is just there so it does some damage to the target independent of your pet but it's mostly there to empower your pet DPS. I.e. your main source of DPS.
And Dire Beast sucked because it was another AI that the game couldn't handle properly.
The bleed is just there so it does some damage to the target independent of your pet but it's mostly there to empower your pet DPS. I.e. your main source of DPS.
And Dire Beast sucked because it was another AI that the game couldn't handle properly.
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08/03/2018 03:33 PMPosted by DrakagaYou realize Barbed Shot applies a stacking attack speed buff to your pet, right? And Dire Beast is still there as a talent.
Yes I can read my abilities thank you. I’m just asking what the point of the change was? Change is good, but change for the sake of changing things is not.
Why even have this bleed? Why not make it so that the bleed stacks to 3 as well? Why make it so that you can’t keep a 3 stack up, turning what could be a smooth skill intensive spec into random RNG reset spec?
Probably because Dire Beast was a mindless button press and they wanted to add some thought into a spec that has been historically simple.
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08/03/2018 04:47 PMPosted by JokasteProbably because Dire Beast was a mindless button press and they wanted to add some thought into a spec that has been historically simple.
So why not just add dire frenzy into dire beast, and let us keep our cool ability to summon extra animals rather than some lame bleed?
08/03/2018 04:57 PMPosted by Wadsworthy08/03/2018 04:47 PMPosted by JokasteProbably because Dire Beast was a mindless button press and they wanted to add some thought into a spec that has been historically simple.
So why not just add dire frenzy into dire beast, and let us keep our cool ability to summon extra animals rather than some lame bleed?
Because not everyone likes being a zookeeper? some people like having 1 hard hitting pet over a million pitiful weaklings
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08/03/2018 03:16 PMPosted by WadsworthyThey took class fantasy and threw it into the garbage
BM spec Fantasy was never a summoner before Legion. So it’s more of returning to the BM fantasy than throwing it in the garbage like they did with the Legion redesign.
08/03/2018 04:57 PMPosted by Wadsworthyo why not just add dire frenzy into dire beast, and let us keep our cool ability to summon extra animals rather than some lame bleed?
Because some of us like to play a Hunter that.. you know.. shoots stuff, not a yoldler version of the pied piper.
I'm seriously at a loss to why you're complaining. Dire Beast still exists. Talent it. It's literally a win win. People who only want 1 pet at all times get that, and people who want more can go that route.
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Because some of us like to play a Hunter that.. you know.. shoots stuff, not a yoldler version of the pied piper.
Weird it's almost like there's a spec for a hunter that shoots stuff...
08/03/2018 05:48 PMPosted by FzzlI'm seriously at a loss to why you're complaining. Dire Beast still exists. Talent it. It's literally a win win. People who only want 1 pet at all times get that, and people who want more can go that route.
Dire Beasts competes directly with having 2 pets, you get one or the other. How exactly is that a win/win?
08/03/2018 05:59 PMPosted by Wadsworthy
Because some of us like to play a Hunter that.. you know.. shoots stuff, not a yoldler version of the pied piper.
Weird it's almost like there's a spec for a hunter that shoots stuff...
marksmanship isn't a real hunter spec anymore
BFA bm plays more like MM than the new mm does, because it has chimera shot, and it actually flows well.
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I used to play the zoo build and I liked throwing pets.
However, I was well aware that many Hunters didn't like it. When the zoo build became a thing complaints were all about how stupid it looked to be throwing pets nonstop, partly because the animation looks dumb. Some people used Dire Frenzy, even during the tiers where it was clearly the wrong choice to do so.
For for reason, some Hunters also don't like having pet abilities do most of their damage because it makes them feel like their arrows are useless. I say they shouldn't be playing BM, but the amount of people complaining about it seems significant.
Barbed Shot is a fake shot, it does almost no damage but it fools some people into thinking that you are shooting hence you are doing the damage. It's the Blizzard way to make Dire Frenzy into a "new" spell, but it's really the same as Dire Frenzy used to be, with a weaker direct damage portion. The scaling changes made autoattacks stronger, so the stacking buff is more important than it was during Legion, but that has nothing to do with the change of Dire Frenzy to Barbed Shot.
However, I was well aware that many Hunters didn't like it. When the zoo build became a thing complaints were all about how stupid it looked to be throwing pets nonstop, partly because the animation looks dumb. Some people used Dire Frenzy, even during the tiers where it was clearly the wrong choice to do so.
For for reason, some Hunters also don't like having pet abilities do most of their damage because it makes them feel like their arrows are useless. I say they shouldn't be playing BM, but the amount of people complaining about it seems significant.
Barbed Shot is a fake shot, it does almost no damage but it fools some people into thinking that you are shooting hence you are doing the damage. It's the Blizzard way to make Dire Frenzy into a "new" spell, but it's really the same as Dire Frenzy used to be, with a weaker direct damage portion. The scaling changes made autoattacks stronger, so the stacking buff is more important than it was during Legion, but that has nothing to do with the change of Dire Frenzy to Barbed Shot.
I played zoo build for a little while and then eventually just refused to because it didn't feel like I was playing BM hunter any more when we got to the point almost all of our damage coming from Cobra Shot & Dire beast and almost none of it coming from our primary pets. Just played dire frenzy and I wound up loving my hunter a lot more. So they didn't replace direbeast with barbed shot they replaced dire frenzy with barbed shot and made it baseline and turned direbeast into a talent. But I love your idea of combining dire frenzy though cause that extra burst at the start of every barbed shot cast with a bleed on top would be awesome.
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Yeah Direbeast was nice and all but it made the rotation take like no thought. You pressed it on CD for the most part unless you had the legendary that reduced the cd of KC on its use then you cared a little more about your rotation.
Now with barbed shot your actually punished in the long run for mismanaging your shots. You want to stagger them so that you remain at 3x stacks for as long as possible.
Its awkward but better.
I still think they should have allowed the DB talent to replace barbed shot when selected but the fact that it adds another button is good for BM.
Now with barbed shot your actually punished in the long run for mismanaging your shots. You want to stagger them so that you remain at 3x stacks for as long as possible.
Its awkward but better.
I still think they should have allowed the DB talent to replace barbed shot when selected but the fact that it adds another button is good for BM.
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08/03/2018 03:49 PMPosted by RhulosBarbed shot is essential to maintaining your DPS. Keep it at 3 stacks = higher DPS.
The bleed is just there so it does some damage to the target independent of your pet but it's mostly there to empower your pet DPS. I.e. your main source of DPS.
And Dire Beast sucked because it was another AI that the game couldn't handle properly.
The bleed is there just to mess up every attempt you make using a freezing trap to switch targets.