What spec needs a rework most, according to you?

Which spec do you think is in dire need of a rework? For me its probably Brewmaster or Outlaw Rogue. But id love to know what you think is bad.

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Brewmaster.

I don’t want to be tracking 15 cooldowns and 71 buffs/debuffs to maintain the appropriate defenses and stagger.

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Affliction is up there.

Would also consider Outlaw, rework it back to Combat .

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In my experience, Arms Warrior. Button bloat with multiple upkeeps and managing multiple CDs and procs that affect CDs and passive effects that affect CDs and a DoT that needs 100% uptime or your damage just tanks and a defensive CD that you need to keep at all times or you’re as durable as a paper bag and

Nah. I’m good. I’ll take my two weapons and the ‘haha glowy button goes brr’ mindset.

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Combat Rogue. Its straightforward, but boring at times repeating the exact same pattern while relying on a random chance mechanic that lets you do the exact same pattern faster.

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all the hunter specs. they feel like they were made by someone who does’nt play the game.

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Outlaw or Subtlety.

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I’d be in favor of ditching the pistol for more melee focused abilities. RtB is whatever with me, I like it but I probably wouldn’t miss it.

I currently love Blade Flurry, keep it as it is, just give it a better animation.

I hate to say it because it’s already undergone probably the most reworks of any other spec in the past decade.
Shadow Priest. I’m actually having fun with it and I may reroll off Affliction (ironically the other spec that I think needs an overhaul)

But it’s confused.
Am I a dot spec? Builder Spender? Resource Management? Burst window? Micro-burst Window?
Conservative to stack Mind Flays and DPs or spend it as I get it for quick turn over for mastery min-maxing?

If you’re talented into Voidweaver + Void Eruption it is so overwhelming on what to press.
You want to be pressing DP as much as possible to amplify the Rift and not waste resources.
But you also want to be using up your Void Blasts before Rift expires.
But you also want to be using Void Bolt on CD to make the most of Voidform after Void Eruption.

There’s too many “now press this!!!” moments and they overlap. Too many priorities.

But yeah, if no SPriest then Aff Lock. MR although functional and it has come a long way, it’s just not in the spirit of what should be the DoT spec. SPriest’s DP is way more satisfying for someone wanting DoT damage.

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Affliction.

The whole spec literally revolves around 1 ability - Malefic Rapture. It’s stupid.
Every affliction build plays the exact same. There’s 0 variety.

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I had trouble understanding how AoE worked for Shadow.

Now I hate how it works after figuring it out lol.

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Yeah, I don’t think many people are a fan of Void Crash to spread DoTs

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Honestly, I think BM and Surv should switch places as the melee Hunter spec.

When I think “survivalist” I don’t imagine being up close with whatever I’m trying to survive from. Survival should be a ranged spec focused on traps and DOTS like it was pre-Legion.

When I think of “master of beasts” I imagine being in the thick of the fight alongside my trusty companion. Like Rexxar, who is THE beast master of the Warcraft franchise that Blizzard retconned into a Survival Hunter in Legion to fit their, in my opinion misguided, notion that Survival should be a melee spec.

Doubt it would ever happen though, so at the very least Survival should be given the option to use 2-handers or dual-wield.

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let the class forums/reddit tell it, it’s EVERY CLASS.

they are all terrible, unfun, in the worst shape ever, neglected by Blizzard Devs Who Don’t Know What They’e Doing, was better in insert past expansion and needs a complete overhaul.

except Paladin. Paladin is the Perfect Blizzard Golden Child.

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That’s why I leaned towards Archon. Halo is really powerful on it’s own and Mind Flay: Insanity hits like a monster truck. I don’t even use Mind Blast at all except on instant cast procs, and only because I have a trinket that only benefits Mind Blast that the TW weekly gave me that I’m replacing ASAP.

Combining that with Ascension instead of Voidform, it really cuts down on the proc and priority heavy nature with the (relatively minor) cost of a bit of a lackluster downtime. It’s probably not as optimal as other talent choices, but unless a couple of percent points are making or breaking what you’re progressing in, the more streamlined nature of it means you’re at your max without drowning in all the nonsense.

My build is prioritized for PvP so I went with Unfurling Darkness for more burst at the cost of AoE dot application and that’s been working for me pretty well. I just dislike spending two talents just for the ability to reliably spread DoTs to more than one thing without 6-10 seconds of hard casting.

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Affliction by a long shot,

Ever since it’s moved from a DoT feature it’s been problematic with Malefic Rapture. Malefic Rapture could work but the gameplay just isn’t there for most content. It’s lost Seed of Corruption for AoE and now used for a Corruption/Wither spreader, Vile Taint has a long cooldown to keep Agony up on multi-targets and trying to keep agony on many targets requires too much. If we had a way of going back to uncapped Unstable Affliction gameplay again as a form of primary spender, I’d be happy.

The thing with Affliction is that it’s supposed to be a DoT spec and Malefic Rapture has ruined the gameplay and turned itself into a mini destro. It’s talent tree still needs lots of quality of life, you still play AoE talents that double down on Rapture gameplay. We can’t even play Oblivion which is actually a fun new talent but it’s cooldown and shard cost doesn’t outweigh the rapture talents.

I can go on about Affliction’s issues and you could just watch a Kalamazi video explaining it but it’s just a spec that requires a lot more than buffs and such and just needs overhauled/reworked entirely.

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Afflic doesn’t need a rework it just needs maelific rapture to be nuked into the sun. It’s the sole reason i never touch afflic.

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When the whole spec is designed around 1 ability, simply removing it isn’t enough. They need to reorganize the whole tree.

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Out of all the specs I’ve tried this expansion it’s probably anything DK. The combat is either too slow or too rampy/GCD bloated.

A runner up would be uhhhh… Mistweaver? I love Monk but MW is the one spec that feels so meh. Crackling Jade Lightning is probably my favorite part.

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DK as a whole, again

They can’t fix unholy somehow, it’s still beyond CD reliant and has too long of an open er

Frost they can’t figure out at all

Blood is either paper or immortal cuz they can’t fix that either

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