Hi everyone, I was just looking to see what is your lore interpretation for the famous Judgment set?
To me it looks like there are multiple ways you can spin the lore or origin behind this iconic set, most notably the distinct use of red and gold instead of a more generic palette for the Knights of the Silver Hand is referencing the Brotherhood of the Light which supposedly existed even before the Argent Dawn.
11/13/2018 02:55 PMPosted by RyuthasHi everyone, I was just looking to see what is your lore interpretation for the famous Judgment set?
To me it looks like there are multiple ways you can spin the lore or origin behind this iconic set, most notably the distinct use of red and gold instead of a more generic palette for the Knights of the Silver Hand.
It's designed after the black dragonflight, hence the black, gold, and red tones. The sword/librams are a signification of the paladin class, the hood is monk-like in nature, and the face plate presents a paragon-like stoicism.
Anyone else dislike seeing BELFs and Cows wearing Judgment? Assuming it's not a Dwarf or Human that faction changed at some point, I think to myself "you weren't there man"! Especially for us old timers that had T2 before the graphic update circa mid-late 2005. The original set was a far cry from the iconic look we know now.
I always imagined it being like the 'bad' side of the paladin class. Like this but not white armor.
https://i.postimg.cc/NFTT7Gd2/sbi.jpg
That is the shadowbane inquisitor sub class for paladins.(D&D 3.5 edition) It was part rogue part paladin. They were for hunting monsters/evil magic users.
If you were to use wow terms, they used their HOPO to get stealth and do extra damage when they surrounded a foe with their rogue partner.
https://i.postimg.cc/NFTT7Gd2/sbi.jpg
That is the shadowbane inquisitor sub class for paladins.(D&D 3.5 edition) It was part rogue part paladin. They were for hunting monsters/evil magic users.
If you were to use wow terms, they used their HOPO to get stealth and do extra damage when they surrounded a foe with their rogue partner.
Thanks for the reply but I don’t seem to quite understand the origin of the set from your explanation.11/13/2018 03:10 PMPosted by Tankar11/13/2018 02:55 PMPosted by RyuthasHi everyone, I was just looking to see what is your lore interpretation for the famous Judgment set?
To me it looks like there are multiple ways you can spin the lore or origin behind this iconic set, most notably the distinct use of red and gold instead of a more generic palette for the Knights of the Silver Hand.
It's designed after the black dragonflight, hence the black, gold, and red tones. The sword/librams are a signification of the paladin class, the hood is monk-like in nature, and the face plate presents a paragon-like stoicism.
Are you implying the colours and motifs simply stem from the fact we were fighting in BWL?
11/13/2018 03:59 PMPosted by NomakAnyone else dislike seeing BELFs and Cows wearing Judgment? Assuming it's not a Dwarf or Human that faction changed at some point, I think to myself "you weren't there man"! Especially for us old timers that had T2 before the graphic update circa mid-late 2005. The original set was a far cry from the iconic look we know now.
Funny enough they decided to put Arator the Reedemer in the iconic Judgment set, cementing the fact that an Elf canonically wears it.
11/13/2018 03:59 PMPosted by NomakAnyone else dislike seeing BELFs and Cows wearing Judgment? Assuming it's not a Dwarf or Human that faction changed at some point, I think to myself "you weren't there man"! Especially for us old timers that had T2 before the graphic update circa mid-late 2005. The original set was a far cry from the iconic look we know now.
Actually having it when relevant, props
was doing MC late in vanilla and hoping for a single piece of tier 1 on my druid. lol
11/13/2018 05:03 PMPosted by AlyuzandroFunny enough they decided to put Arator the Reedemer in the iconic Judgment set, cementing the fact that an Elf canonically wears it.
Canon means f**kall to my point. An NPC in legion doesn't mean any BELF players earned T2 in Vanilla. Outside of faction changers, any BELF rocking T2 (which there are plenty), just did a TMOG run.
I love TMOG as much as the next guy, I assure you. Just simply stating that BELFs in T2 are the equivalent to a 14 year old girl wearing a Nirvana t-shirt that has never listened to an album.
It doesn't tilt me or anything, I just think "pfft, poser..." :-P
Back in the day, a CM stated that it represents the Inquisition face of the Silver Hand, worn by Paladins who dole out judgement to perceived dark magic users and heretics
11/13/2018 06:16 PMPosted by Nomak11/13/2018 05:03 PMPosted by AlyuzandroFunny enough they decided to put Arator the Reedemer in the iconic Judgment set, cementing the fact that an Elf canonically wears it.
Canon means f**kall to my point. An NPC in legion doesn't mean any BELF players earned T2 in Vanilla. Outside of faction changers, any BELF rocking T2 (which there are plenty), just did a TMOG run.
I love TMOG as much as the next guy, I assure you. Just simply stating that BELFs in T2 are the equivalent to a 14 year old girl wearing a Nirvana t-shirt that has never listened to an album.
It doesn't tilt me or anything, I just think "pfft, poser..." :-P
Yeah I know your comment wasn’t directed at lore but merely the fact Vanilla was not TBC.
That’s why I responded “funny enough...”
11/13/2018 06:23 PMPosted by SigmarBack in the day, a CM stated that it represents the Inquisition face of the Silver Hand, worn by Paladins who dole out judgement to perceived dark magic users and heretics
Hey that’s a pretty cool answer.
When I played Vanilla back in the day the red color theme had me convinced it was a Scarlet Crusade themed set.
I guess the simple answer is that it’s just a set for the champion of the Brotherhood of the Light, a section of the Argent Dawn. Worn by Crusade Commander Eligor Dawnbringer in Stratholme.
The only reason I didn’t simply come to this straight forward conclusion is that Arator the half elf is the first NPC seen wearing the iconic set. (Even before Eligor)
Perhaps he could have been part of the Brotherhood of the Light and hated the undead scourge just like the rest of the Elves after WC3. (Not confirmed to be part of the Brotherhood, no citations)
There is a T-2 Teal Recolor that you can see on the guards in Paladin class hall that dropped in the Scourge Invasion before the Lich King expansion called "Undead Slayer" Armor. Sadly you cannot get it today. It is my go to classic set. ;)
11/13/2018 05:03 PMPosted by AlyuzandroFunny enough they decided to put Arator the Reedemer in the iconic Judgment set, cementing the fact that an Elf canonically wears it.
An Alliance Elf. ;)
I mean, he's a half-Elf and has lived with the Alliance as a Paladin since his parents left to go to Draenor, so maybe he raided BWL before heading to the Dark Portal.
11/14/2018 02:20 PMPosted by Airc11/13/2018 05:03 PMPosted by AlyuzandroFunny enough they decided to put Arator the Reedemer in the iconic Judgment set, cementing the fact that an Elf canonically wears it.
An Alliance Elf. ;)
I mean, he's a half-Elf and has lived with the Alliance as a Paladin since his parents left to go to Draenor, so maybe he raided BWL before heading to the Dark Portal.
Well that’s the thing, my head canon is that Judgment is a Brotherhood of the Light set, which is fitting for an Alliance Elf that hates the Undead.
The problem is it’s not confirmed he was in that sect of the Argent Dawn.
I always found they looked like the bad guys from Ultima 5. So while I have the set (minus the boots that wont drop) I dont use it for mogging.