After watching the “Shadowlands Afterlives: Bastion,” I had decided on Kyrian. I really like Uther, so being given the chance to possibly help him is what really influenced my decision. Ironically the cinematic that I found the least enticing was the one for Ardenweald, so I wasn’t too keen on picking Night Fae. I wanted to join the Kyrian no matter what!
I’ve gotten some interesting responses after telling someone that I picked Kyrian as Boomkin. A few people have simply responded with “Yikes”. I’ve been asked, “Are you the kind of druid that just spams Sunfire and Moonfire?” after joining M+ groups. Even down to players voicing their disappointment that I’m not NF during MoTS.
By this point in time, we have a plethora of information available to us to determine what our “BIS” covenant is. All Druid specs are overwhelmingly NF. Although switching covenants is ideal, in the end I want to play to have fun. For aesthetics or otherwise, regardless of min/maxing.
So that brings us to the question: What made you choose your covenant?
It sucks. Kyrian for Boomy pvp, necro for resto and feral, night fae for boomy pve. Guardian is the one that can really go any which way (but serious ones usually go necro).
And druids are one of the better off classes! So many classes have a spec in each covenant.
I’m not a ripcord , but man… we gotta be more active in balancing these things.
Our boomkin went Kyrian from NF after we finished prog and his parses dropped about 20% from where they used to be.
I don’t get people who still think ripcord doesnt need to be pulled and they should ‘trust’ blizzard to balance these… it’s been almost 6 months man if balance was coming shouldn’t it already be here.
I have to agree in a way, it is pretty bland in comparison to the shenanigans that is Convoke.
This also swayed me in picking Kyrian, since I played in Warmode for the majority of BFA as well as for the start of SL. Kyrian is great for WPVP! Convoke is obviously OP too but I think Kyrian is more consistent?
I am Venthyr currently simply for the group of people I do mythic plus keys with. Which, luckily for me, was the covenant I had preferred anyhow. However, I was initially Night Fae because it was (and still is) the better covenant for Havoc in all scenarios currently. I will more than likely go back Night Fae. My guild currently isn’t too forceful on optimal covenant choice, within reason of course.
What is more staggering to me is the fact that statistically, players are picking the best performing covenants for their class. I think in the recent interview with Ion, Preach mentioned that 97% of Warlocks are Night Fae, or something of the sort. How many of those people actually want to be Night Fae, versus those who chose it simply because it was best? Just a curious thought of mine, it’s not at all going to change the system currently.
Unfortunately with the way Boomkin works as I’m sure you’ve realized is because you can line up cds and trinkets (like bell or cube) Convoke is amplified massively. Fights where you need to do a big amount of damage in a small window (Sludgefist) it’s just too good to pass up.
This guy his 60 today and is sitting in Oribos because well… I don’t want to do any of the campaigns over again lol. I’ll decide at some point I guess. My favorite is Kyrian for the base, look, etc. but I don’t want to do that stupid dungeon with the spear again (and why is Kyrian the only campaign that has a dungeon? O.o)
I do remember that picture lol. I’m not at all surprised that this was the turnout for the majority of the playerbase, not solely warlocks. I’m more surprised that Blizzard truly believed that a ripcord wasn’t necessary.
The thing with Night Fae Boomkin is that they’re really really good in a vacuum but not busted. The problem is the 9.0 mechanics help Convoke so much it completely tips the scales. There’s way too many things that Convoke happens to be strong that even if Blizzard did balance Kindred Spirits to be more competitive it wouldn’t have stood a chance.
Of course, it doesn’t really help that Blizzard didn’t do a fantastic job of testing anyways. To be honest, I don’t really understand why they don’t have like a more comprehensive set of test environments to accurately sim how these things will turn out on their side just so they can get even the most base-line balance. Like, they should be running regression on all specs and whenever they want to make changes they should be running regression and seeing how things line up for various simulated scenarios.
People joke that Ion Hazzikostas is spreadsheet driven but he’s obviously not spreadsheet driven enough or you won’t end up with these situations with like Aff Lock Fire Mage Boomie.
I don’t RP but my main (a goblin rogue I basically no longer play) just felt like nothing actually would fit him. None of the covenants made sense to me on what I would think a goblin “in the afterlife” would care about.
The leveling campaign really did not give me a good feel for these abilities at end game and they all felt pretty lack luster. So, I went with the one I thought looked cool. I went Venthyr and I absolutely HATED Flagellation in it’s original form. It was too clunky and just felt bad to use and I removed it from my bars. Strictly from the skills alone I would’ve preferred any other ability, but I also disliked the look of every other covenant.
What fantastic player choice Blizzard gave me. So meaningful sure do enjoy feeling bad about my choices.
There are two reasons all of my level 60 toons are in the wrong covenants.
First is the fact that when I chose covenants for my alliance and horde mains, they needed to go into one that fit’s their personalities. My ele shaman is a vampire (terrible covenant for ele), but the overall feel of the covenant fits.
My Night Elf priest is night fae - she has always been more nature bound.
MY other two alts ended up in the worst covenants for them because I needed to finish the other two covenant storylines.
So in the end, everything possible is messed up for all these toons (except the priest) and I’ve decided not to worry about it.
Yep, agreed. I personally don’t have a horse in this particular “ripcor” and class balance, however that said they should’ve fixed it by now.
First players complained they should have waited longer to iron out the kinks before releasing. Now complaining 9.1 is too far away…idk
I picked Kyrian for my hunter because I liked the whole Greek mythology undertone. Venthyr for this DH cuz I liked vampires. Both are fun, but for my playstyle it didn’t matter. Just sorry for the folks it does. That whole original “the Covenant you choose will have negible effect” didn’t fly.
, but man… we gotta be more active in balancing these things.
