What kind of dps should I be doing as arms?

I’m around 444ilvl. On a raiding target dummy I hover between 30-35k+ dps unbuffed and without heroism just straight up. Is that where I should be?

So, I ran two sim’s on your character since you didn’t seem to do it.

With your current build you sim out at:
https://i.imgur.com/bsO1IXc.png

When I did the second sim, I changed one talent. I gave you massacre:
https://i.imgur.com/95dxnmF.png

On a target dummy I am 33-36k dps and my sims is 36k I am where I am suppose to be. You have much better gear than me, but your azerite traits are not the best and seem random.

You should be pulling honestly 38-40k with no issues. I could be wrong, I am sure one of the better PvE warriors will post later, but you probably just don’t know arms priorities.

40K+ DPS interesting. That’s good to know.

If you’re really looking to fine tune what you’re doing and get your numbers up, you really need to get into the raid and get some logs, even just normal, up on warcraftlogs.com. Just the score that your log achieves alone will give you some immediate feedback on how you’re doing. More importantly however, the detailed information stored in the log will allow you to dive in and compare what you’re doing with what the actual doctrine on the class says you should be doing. Even if you’re not quite there yet on being able to analyze your own logs, you can share them elsewhere, either here on the forums or ideally in the Skyhold discord’s #log-review channel and get some expert feedback on what you can do to improve. Unfortunately with the information currently at hand, it’s hard for anyone to give you more than ‘you can do better’.

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I have not parced on a raid dummy so i cant say. I know sustain on the target dummy by the pvp area in BFA i tend to pull about 44k avg i think self buffed. Im also not running supposed top raid traits. That said when i proc a 225k slam its adds a lot to my overall dps.

How in the world are you procing 225k slams? Are you doing x3 crushing assault?

yea and during CS window but without avatar. Promise it dosent hit a player for near that.

Be aware that on a dummy you most likely dont have everything that a sim would have such as lust, flask, pots, execute phase, monk buff, and food buff.

You might have some of those but definetly not all.

Unless you did a target dummy sim.

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Chubby brings up a good point so I did the sim myself.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ebT5kPWD16JumVAY14UbUa
Target dummy sim puts you at 33.7k dps. Remember that’s an average (or median?) out of nearly 14k iterations. I still stand by what I said before, without logs to actually look over your casts and such it’s hard to really know how you’re doing or what you might need to work on, but if you’re consistently hitting around that number on a dummy you’re probably not bad at the core rotation.

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If you are in warmode make sure to check pvp talents. Arms doesnt have ones like fury that omega boost dps but there are a few like the bladestorm or charge one.

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Then i wouldn’ get accurate dps results. you cant use pvp talents in mythic+ or pve in general.

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That was my point. Make sure to not use those

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ahh. i misunderstood. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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your traits are OK.
with ToM you always want to run Lucid as major essence. pop it right before you use warbreaker.
But as @Aedan said. Logs from raid would be the actual way for anyone to objectively help you figure out what you doing wrong or right.

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While true for a lot of people its not always the case.

I have triple tom and clf sims 1k higher than lucid for me. In 5 minute patchwerk at least.

Only way to know is to run sims

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The OP doesn’t have rank 3 clf . So lucid is his best

sure. that is true. always gotta sim, but if in doubt I always default to lucid for arms. In M+ BOTE is kind of fun too

Popping lucid in execute phase is phaaaaat dps

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Wait what is CLF?

Condensed life force. Azerite neck piece essence