Like for real. The entire climb I did almost every single lost bg was a loss of 0 points. I think I accumulated a total of like -15 points from like 40 losses. How are people losing almost 200 points in a matter of hours without dcing? Seems almost impossible to be doing that poorly.
you probably won early on which gave you a massive mmr to cr difference. a win streak to 1900cr at 2400 mmr can lose a boatload of games before losing rating. someone else that started out 50/50 is going to take much longer even if they start winning 80% after.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. You have to lose a lot to lose any points. Imagine how many L’s you have to catch to lose hundreds of points.
well someone can lose 200 points from 1600-1700 as well. if someone is losing 200 that quickly from 2000 it’s only because they got super lucky on the way there in the first place. it only takes a luck streak early on.
Well the system puts everyone where they belong eventually I guess
The system certainly puts specs where they belong. IDK about players. There are plenty of good players at 1800-2000 playing dogwater specs that simply don’t have the buttons or toolkit necessary to have an impact.
Playing anything other than MW/Pres auto loses all flag maps once MMR is high enough to ensure those specs know how to play and know their job. For some reason every flag map I get on my Priest is always double Priest vs double MW. Matchmaking is embarrassing.
Any healer q’ing without a Rogue buddy is losing all node maps to the healers who do once MMR is high enough, too. In an 8 man team on node maps, a halfway decent Rogue is worth 3 DPS and is effectively an auto-win vs non-Rogue teams.
It’s unreal how bad balance is at higher levels and how useless some healers are at lower MMR. If your team is incapable of slowing FC’s and you’re playing a Hpriest I guess you can’t slow either. If you’re playing Disc/Holy Priest and don’t have a kick you just eat every random Clone/Hex/Sleep Walk and lose nodes.
The system puts the specs with the worst kits at the bottom and it’s kinda unreal how easy it is for decent specs to just auto win vs bad ones. I’ve already seen a few 1200-1500 MW/Rogue/Pres players fumble their way to easily gapping top 50 players on non-meta specs.
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ive been about even to where i am now.
I win and gain about 100-150 cr, when I lose, I lose about 5-10…
That being said, 1800 is already looking about 200% easier than shuffle. I just go in, cc someone, cap a base and 1 shot/slow FCs.
Maybe just win more matches?
Sounds like a Git Gud situation
Blitz is so frustrating for some specs. Only reason i believe alot of people are playing it is because its super inflated. Getting some titles then im done queing it…
Hpaly lol… Priest just waddle around the map and eat cc for days. Get 2 to 3 warriors on your team? Auto loss.
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What I’ve been seeing is people getting put in extremely low lobbies. Was a MW healer last night at almost 2450 CR in a 1700 MMR lost like 50 points. They had no reason being in there and was a total shame. They were like yup I should’ve stopped Queing.
I’ve also noticed something odd for the 1st Que of the session they put me in a horrible lobby of 1500 when I was 1965 CR. No one on my team was above 1500. I had no business being in there. It was Twin Peaks though so we just dominated them and I got 5 rating. However that could of ended badly if it was another map where I didn’t have alot of control of the outcome.
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https://imgur.com/a/R117rG8
Does the first Que sometimes reset your MMR? It’s happened several times. Will put you in a MMR that is 400-500 pts below your CR for the first match. You win go back to normal. I don’t get it. (this needs to stop though) That is just a crazy sabtoge MMR system.
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You can just gift people Blitz MMR p sure. I qd with a homie the other day who had been in placements, and I randomly had juiced MMR due to winning several
He joined, we got a 2.5k game (his original mmr was 1700~, mine was 2700~), won it, and he proceeded to be in 2.6k lobbies ever since even without me duo qing with him.
Then you basically never lose points even on a loss. Losing a game @ 2.7k when you’re 1700 means 0 points for a loss, 24 for a win.
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I’ve won plenty of games without playing with an MW or Pres on my team in flag maps. Its a lot harder, but as soon as a team has seen Iplus do the meme CTF they tend to just erase that possibility, or at least hinder it greatly.
Duo qing in to a rogue healer that are good as a non rogue healer definitely gives them the advantage just due to mobility and ease of leaving nodes. But I’ve beaten 3x rogue teams @ 2.7k+ with only 1 or no rogues on my team on like Eots.
death the hex or sleep walk, stand 46 yards away from node as disc so they can’t hard cast the clone and get to flag to cap before you come out w/ any instant cast spell.
The most toxic things about Blitz you didn’t even mention. Cloak capping nodes, Ice wall being busted, Dragon’s deciding you don’t get to be in a team fight and yeeting you off a cliff, etc.
Holy Priests, Warriors, Spriests, Hpals, BM, Fire Mage, Aug (lmao), Demo Locks or any DPS Shaman specs are trash. Get 2-3-4 of those toolkit losers on your team and face Rogues, DK’s, MW, Pres, Dev, MM etc and the games decided before the gates even open.
I don’t care how good those trash spec players are, either. The best Hpals and Hpriests in the world still can’t move or kick or FC or spin. The best Spriests in the world still can’t do damage or slow or kick more than 3 times a game. If the enemy FC is a MW I’m not expecting the double Shadow Priests I have on my team to be able to anything about it lmao. They wouldn’t even finish a VT cast before the MW is out of range.
Some specs are so bad that I could put Pika or Trill or whoever the best player in the world is on a Hpriest and vs them for a node playing Pres and I’d win every time because skill doesn’t matter when 1 spec has spammable CC and a kick and mobility and the other spec doesn’t have any of those things.
Skill is utterly meaningless when kit disparity is this large.
That’s a crazy loss for one bg damn
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No but the MMR system will prioritize shorter DPS queues over matching healer MMR.
If some 1400 lobby needs a healer and has been waiting a few minutes, the matchmaking system will throw a 2150 healer in there to keep queue times short and Blizzard have no problem spitting in the healers face to do it.
Sometimes it works the opposite way and a 1550 healer gets thrown into a 2450 lobby.
Best way to avoid it is to queue at primetime and don’t take longer queue pops. Anything over ~8-10m queue is a no-go unless you’re happy playing with people literally 1k CR below you and losing enormous MMR if you lose because your team are eating paste.
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Yea I was sad for him. The team was so bad it was AB too so they had no control over it the other team had a way better comp too. It wasn’t even close. That just seems like a bug in MMR that is totally unfair to players trying to push.
This is making sense so I won’t disagree with it.
However I do also feel that any time you log and then come back my MMR is significantly lower like I have to win to get back to where my MMR belongs. It’s a pattern, it’s noticeable.
They do need to tweak some things to be fair. I don’t mind waiting for the correct MMR.
Honestly it’s fair for everyone. Look at my picture of that lobby I shouldn’t of been in. The other team got rocked and lost a bunch of points because they put a 1965 fully geared RBG tank on a 1500 team against a 1700 team. It’s not fair for me or the other team.
My team was fighting mid since they were 1500 I was fighting Rogue/Mage and killing other Dps grabbing the flag then they were like ohh right it’s a flag match. It’s also why I have a flag return while holding the flag lol.
that. is a problem
Far too late to fix it. If they touch Blitz MMR now then you have tons of people who have already abused the system to become uncatchable CR wise.
Just gonna be shuffle s1 level numbers again, and then it’ll get adjusted and no one will ever hit those ratings again.
Q the new bracket early and often for your free achievements
They should of never allowed Duo Que. They should fix it.