What is the Uncrowned

Hey guys I’m just curious what exactly the uncrowned is. I know they are essentially an all knowing spy group with allegiance only to themselves. However, why are there hero’s from both the Horde and Alliance there? What is their overs objective? Why didn’t they stop the fourth war? What do they actually do?

Throughout the rogue campaign, none of those questions are really answered, and more questions are presented.

The uncrowned is an underground book club.

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The Uncrowned is a bunch of spies that came together to share intel, and do spy missions, assassinations, and what not. They can come together when they have a common cause, like stopping the Legion. Ultimately though, rogues are a bunch of backstabbers and scumbags (I mean that in a nice way, of course) so its not really a group that holds hands and unites azeroth.

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The Uncrowned doesn’t really have a background; at best, it’s the holdovers from the old Ravenholdt faction (that incidentally also doesn’t have much of a background either).

Vanilla gave every faction their own rogue organization, as well as a general thieves’ guild, Ravenholdt. Unfortunately, SI:7 was the only one of these organizations to really maintain any sort of strong presence in the lore going forward. (Ravenholdt was involved in the Cata Legendary Daggers quest with Wrathion, but the mansion was destroyed at the end of that questline.)

So, for Legion, they obviously can’t have every rogue reporting to SI:7, and for reasons unknown they didn’t want to rebuild Ravenholdt. So, they made up the Uncrowned as an excuse to have as many major rogue characters join up and participate.

All that being said, even if the setup is questionable, it’s one of the better order halls. The main questline is actually relevant to the overall story, it gives you a fair number of toys and minipets (especially if you enjoy pickpocketing), and you even get your own black market auction house in a neutral area. Not a bad deal for something made up fairly on the spot.

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I thought you were Vespero.

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A pack of drunks who fell into obscurity after Legion.

Imagine the Brethren Court from Pirates of the Carribean. A bunch of ne’er do wells who have banded together for their own survival.

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It appears to be the games Thieves Guild.

I actually thought it was pretty cool how every assassin was a member. You’ve Deathstalker and SI:7 milling about at the same bar along with Defias and Bloodsail pirates.

Apparently everyone who’s ever used cheapshot is part of a Rogue Illuminati. Even Greymane’s daughter, scandalously enough.

I think that is half of it. It is also about maintaining stability over their activities and power by influencing events from the shadows. They are active in Legion because the Legion is a threat to all of them. Outside of that I think they also work as a loose collection of the most powerful underworld players who maintain the balance of power in the underworld and insure that outside threats don’t disturb that power. Considering how frequently Azeroth is faced with major threats and upheavals, it wouldn’t be suprising to see such a group existing to keep their interests from being destroyed by madmen, overzealous rulers or eldritch threats.

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So they have come together to make sure the Legion doesn’t interfere with their other doings.

So they’ve done this in the past I assume? They mention having killed kings and such

They’re the best of ideas. They’re the most irrelevant of ideas.

They are group of Rogues who are Spies, Assassins, Outlaws, Pirates, and Bandits who came together as one during the Legion Campaign where they had Famous Lore Characters and even the Headmaster of the Revenholdt Manor in Hillsbard as their leader that leads a strike against the burning legion.

The king killing is a gross overstatement. Only one of them ever did that (Garona), and she was ultimately pretty conflicted about it.

Part of this though is that WoW doesn’t really have many kings to kill in the first place.

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I feel like the “killers of kings” and such wasn’t so much a statement of something they do “as the Uncrowned,” but rather a description of the sorts of individuals who comprised their cooperative.

I get the sense that the Uncrowned may have been a specifically Legion-instigated coalition of the world’s underground groups; if it were actually a persistent thing before and after the invasion, one would expect having a seat on a permanent leading council of Azeroth’s organized crime and intelligence communities would put the Bloodsails in a position to have already stomped all over the rest of the world’s pirate fleets a long time ago.

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