So, like, the six forces of the Warcraft universe seem to each have realms/planes/whatever devoted to them in some form. The Light and the Void have their titular planes of course, Disorder/Fel has the Twisting Nether, Death has the Shadowlands, Life is either the Emerald Dream (which would be specific to Azeroth) or just… planets with life on them. So what about Order/Arcane?
I’m sort of guessing that the Great Dark is supposed to be the ‘realm of the arcane’. It would match up with how balance druids work (life of the planet, arcane from space, a natural balance). But I dunno, I’m just spitballing.
The Realm of Arcane is first indicated when Malygos accidentally opens a rift into that Realm in the Nexus. The Arcane Realm is further hinted at when the Artifact Lore for Aluneth mentions how the Arcane Entity was summoned.
The Rift into the Realm of the Arcane in the Nexus is just as if not more permanent than the Rift into the Shadowlands though not as big.
As for the Great Dark Beyond: That is the realm between all Realms. We’ve seen the Border between the Great Dark Beyond and the Twisting Nether in the form of Outland and have seen the Border between the Great Dark Beyond and the Shadowlands in the form of Northrend and the Maw.
Titans are pretty much walking embodiments of arcane, so they probably consitute as the ‘plane’ of arcane.
Not that it particularly needs one though. Life doesn’t have one in oppisite of the Shadowlands, the Emerald Dream is a unique creation, otherwise they don’t have a plane.
You’re right, I doubled checked and it does say it was a plane, just like the Void.
Conversely, checking again, the Twisting Nether isn’t the plane associated with Fel. It’s where Light and Void bled into one, creating a chaotic and antilogical plane of existance. Fel is just prelevant there thanks to the Legion, it’s no more associated with Fel as the Great Dark is with Arcane.
Fel and Arcane might just lack planes of existance devoted to them. Though with the Emerald Dream being unique to Azeroth, so does life. Really, life is just life. So I guess the Great Dark could be considered their ‘plane’.
Yes it is. It’s where demons are from. Also: "Disorder, on the other hand, manifests as highly destructive fel magic, a destructive and extremely addictive energy originating as a result of the mutual destruction of Light and Void as they collide on a cosmic scale in the Twisting Nether. (Wowpedia, taken from Chronicle 1)
So as I said; the Nether is the plane of fel.
You missed where I said it was really the material universe. Planets with life are the ‘realm of life’.
Demons aren’t all of fel though. Demons are just the Life of the Twisting Nether, same as mortals being the life of the Great Dark. Dreadlords were stated to have been shadow magic users, without fel being mentioned for them until the Legion formed, Some even worshipped other worlds’ old gods.
Demons were born from the bleeding of light and shadow, and is satated to be chaotic mess of a realm , but Fel is the embodiment of Disorder magic in general, which to me is not the same thing.
Disorder can exist in either the Great Dark Beyond or the Twisting Nether, the nature of the Twisiting Nether being chaotic just makes it more common there. But that doesn’t mean it’s the plane of fel just because it’s more common there, it just means it’s more likely to appear in a realm of turbulence than one a lot more ordered like the Titan worlds.
I’m not sure if I’m explaining this well, but to me being a magic of Disorder does not mean the nature of chaos itself is fel magic, it just means Fel represents Disorder, and the Twisting Nether is a disorderly place, so it’s prevalent there.
Mayhaps. Chronciles likes putting the Emerald Dream as Shadowlands’ oppisite for some reason though. They do it a few times, at least.
I don’t think every magic needs a plane nor does something being more prelevant on one makes it a plane of that magic, it just means its more common there.
Its not unique to Azeroth though. During BC, you entered the Emerald Dream in Outland as part of the Druid Flight Form quest.
My guess is that the Emerald Dream IS the actual Plane of Life, but we only know the tiniest, most infinitesimal specs of it from what the Titans did in it; making a blueprint for Azeroth. We know Wild Gods go to the Emerald Dream upon death, as well as Ardenweald, and we also know Wild Gods aren’t unique to Azeroth.
As for the Arcane Realm, at the moment at least, it’s untapped and unexplored. We’ve never been there. It might not even be possible for us to go there. The Titans have a connection to it considering their very lifeblood is the arcane.
Well, that’s a bit iffy. The prophecy that tied Anzu to the Emerald Dream referred to the ED as the “Dreams of his enemies” which implies, to me at least, they were invading our Emerald Dream to attack us and the Cenarions, not that they had access to another part of the Emerald Dream.
Freya created the Emerald Dream, with the two origin stories we were given being that she either created it from nothing, or from the dreams of Azeroth’s World Soul.
Either way I don’t think the Emerald Dream is ‘natural’ to reality.
If there is a greater Life Plane, then the Emerald Dream would just be our corner of it, rather than the Emerald Dream being the plane itself. Kinda like Ardenweald being just one realm of Shadowlands.
What we know as the Emerald Dream was created by Freya, regarldess of where exactly she aquired the pieces to make it, life plane, azeroth’s dreams or otherwise.
They didn’t even say Arcane Realm, just plane. Plane can mean many things, even pocket dimensions or any other unrelated realm.
The first creatures on Azeroth to discover Aluneth was the wise dragons of the blue dragonflight. While manipulating the fabric of reality, they tapped into another realm of existence and made contact with the strange arcane entity. Intrigued by the being’s existence, the dragons summoned Aluneth into their stronghold, the Nexus, for further study.
If it was an ‘‘Arcane Realm’’ then the Dragons wouldn’t have accidentally come across it, you know weavers of Magic, Keepers of the Arcane and all.
