Seriously, after BFA, what is the point of factions any longer?
The relationship between Horde and Alliance is stronger now than its ever been. Erase the divide, let us make guilds with any race. Stop segregating the races based on old lines in the sand, faded and swept away.
The wars feel very forced. I’d like us to put aside our differences and team up! #DissolveTheFactions
Why would the Zandalari forgive the Alliance for killing their king, bombing their harbor, and attacking their city?
Im also sure an army of female Night Elf players are willing to swarm this thread to tell you how they really feel about Teldrassil for the 9000th time.
Keep the factions. There is no peace.
It was all the doing of Sylvannas and N’zoth. N’zoth was a master manipulator and Sylvannas made it clear she used the Horde and cared nothing for them.
Tell that to the citizens who died by Alliance blades and their families who had to mourn them.
Blizzard just can’t write a compelling faction war story to save their lives, doesn’t mean there isn’t real pain that can be elaborated upon.
The factions will continue because hate is the only real truth in the world. All it would take is for someone on the opposite end to cough the wrong way and we’ll be back to killing each other because that’s what we do.
If anything, we need new factions.
This. This is why it is getting stale. No shifting allegiances. No killing off old characters and building up new ones to replace them in a fluid cycle.
Have some races splinter and switch factions, based on story. If needed, this could be reflected in gameplay simliar to Panderans, although this should be a player’s choice.
The perception divide over Baine and Calia right now are a good start. The anger of the Night Elves and Worgen are another.
An option to go neutral like Valeera could also be an option.
You’re a Mag’har, are you sure it’s all ok with the Draenei?
Nope, maybe before Darnassus,but nope. Well…maybe. If Sylvanas dies. Like really dies, goes away…dead.
Well, where would the warcraft in world of warcraft be if there weren’t factions?
To sell faction transfers. PVP and quest lines could all remain unchanged, just allow players to group together via the LFG/Communities tool.
Oh, did something happen there?
For when Genn & Tyrande start another war of course. Peace doesn’t last.
I’d be more for the Horde and Alliance falling apart rather than coming together. Let the individual races fight or find peace separately.
Legion
Old Gods
Void Lods
Titans
some other 3rd party.
The faction conflict hasn’t been the focus of the warcraft in world of warcraft since warcraft 2
Honestly the faction conflict has always been in the background since vanilla. And every time it’s been made the focus of an expansion the story and characters have taken a nose dive in quality each taking turns holding the idiot ball to explain their actions and motivations.
The faction conflict at this point is incredibly forced and hamfisted.
Yes there have been brutal attacks carried out by both sides in BFA, but those attacks were committed not for any real logical reason, but to further push the faction conflict and to justify it. Which just makes them look even dumber. Blizz is now pushing that this was all just Slyvannas doing some 5D chess move, but in all honesty it feels like a desperation move in that the faction conflict story once again didn’t mesh out well with the audience and so they have to go with plan B.
The playerbases are also very different.
Now that the Alliance playerbase has driven away so many of its better players, Alliance players want cross-faction play so that the Horde playerbase can bail them out.
No thank you. No bailout for the Alliance.
Nothing could kill my enjoyment of Warcraft faster.
Blizzard doesn’t know how to write an open war, so let’s go back to the Cold War. Do a time skip, make the Horde and Alliance have huge mistrust and bad blood but not blowing up each other’s cities every other week.
Let’s say in 10.0 Lightforged Crusade comes to Azeroth while we’re away, conquer most of Azeroth - the Alliance bends the knee, the Horde resists. Lightforged install puppet governments before leaving to continue the Crusade overworld - puppet governments integrate Alliance races into their policing force, which forces the Alliance and Horde into natural conflict with each other as the Lightforged attempt to bring the Horde fully under their control.
Alliance and Horde are both “good” - Alliance secretly trying to undermine the Lightforged from within, the Horde from without, but this causes them into skirmishes with each other.
That’s how I’d write it at least. When the Lightforged are eventually defeated, the Horde still mistrust the Alliance for collaborating, that their actions were without honor. Similarly, Alliance mistrusts the Horde for killing many of their people while resisting the Lightforged.
They’re an integral part of the game. It puts the war in Warcraft.
I agree that Alliance vs Horde have gotten old and stale, and BFA failed to really reignite the conflict.
I think we need a fresh take on faction divide, one not based on race but some kind of ideological conflict. Shadowlands presents an opportunity as we are making a faction decision with Covenants… but the faction war should still be two opposing forces. I don’t think there’s enough player base to sustain more than two.
Asymmetrical 3+ faction conflicts are possible but very complicated to code. I’d imagine one had to periodically empower the faction with the least numbers to sort of balance strength in numbers vs strength in quality
The purpose? To keep people from playing what they want with whom they want.