Normal raid gear is 13 ilvl better than mythic gear of the previous patch. You literally played yourself.
guys please dont fight…it doesnt get anyone anywhere…opinions are allowed to be different.
i honestly just wanted to get a temperature from some others and see if my general feeling was something that others were having in the community…no reason to turn it into a fight…we do enough of that in game.
It’s not an opinion though, he’s factually wrong. 
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If his definition of catchup gear is “that gear you can get in the new patch’s questline, or that gear you get with the new patch currency to quickly gear up”, then he’s right.
If he genuinely means “catchup gear” is “the gear you get from running dungeons and raids in the current patch”, then I want what he’s smoking.
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Catch-up gear is the stuff you get from world content, like Soup, Dragonbane, Researchers Under Fire, or Superbloom. No serious players are going to use that as a primary means of gearing up.
Yeah, if you were active in the previous patch and pushed high level content, you likely wouldn’t resort to those methods of gearing, because that level of gear is not going to be better than the previous patch’s mythic / high mythic + key gear.
That’s a fact.
If you’re starting from scratch or have been gone for longer than a single season, then that catch up methodology is perfectly valid
Gear doesn’t nerf content enough because gearing is so stupid fast that players are near the gear cap by week 2. So fights are designed around people near the gear cap, because everyone will be in a few weeks. If it took 2-3 months to reach the gear cap it could be tuned around less gear.
But the players also have a stroke at the idea of slower gearing, or mythic+ possibly not being the free easy loot piñata it is.
Nothing to really do with borrowed power.
Or an alternative is to not have the back half of mythic ball bustingly difficult.
Hence borrowed power.
Let people gear fast but still gain power on a longer tail through borrowed power mechanics.
I’m just using his definition of catch-up which is lfr/normal raiding and M0. M0 gear this patch is 10 ilvl better than the best gear last patch.
It is what it is.
They aren’t resetting anything… Jesus Christ.
The raids always had higher Ilvl each time they released. Before mythic plus you either ran the older raids till you were strong enough to run the harder raids or waited till blizzard released catch up content to jump over to the newest raids. Mythic plus fills this gap every season.
If there was no mythic plus with each raid release you’d just be stuck re running the older raids until you were good enough to run the newest released raids and so on.
If that’s the definition, it’d be wrong.
But from this
I don’t think that’s his definition.
And that made having done the raids feel rewarding.
Sure but they also made the newest raids inaccessible to the grand majority of players that couldn’t " feel rewarded " by it.
I mean… that keeps that content alive longer. Ask most Classic Andies and they’ll say they like having two “current” raids active at once.
Yeah, Idk. That’s definitely wrong.
Well blizzard is all about accessibility now. Hence why 90% of the content is casual. With only higher keys higher, higher arenas and mythic raiding.
I’m all for not having mplus. It’s just funny finding these threads going ??? At mplus when it was literally made so they get to see content and don’t have to jump through the classic hoops to actually be able to run it
I like M+. But playing SoD has made me enjoy raiding once again and seeing what made raiding great once and what might be needed for raiding to return to greatness. Ideally there is a world where raiding exists and coexists with M+ in a way that is not harmful to either.
Idk what the solution is because it exists for character progression. Take away the need for better gear how do people progress their character?
You would almost need to remove the level cap or something similar.
Or like Sentenza mentioned, borrowed power. Something like the Heart of Azeroth AP grind would be involved.
Those things just create different problems though imo.
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Depends on the venue. In arena 100%. Bgs? Eh.