what is point of having them. there are so unbalanced you could have no healers and the other team could have three. its funny that there is a voice chat but nobody uses it they just call it out in chat and wastes time doing it. fix your game blizzard.
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Actually BGs seem fairly common to have the exact same amount of healers on both sides.
It’s the quality of said healers that varies between the teams.
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I see it being 50/50.
I do have a lot of games that are even.
I also do have a lot of games that are messed up as OP mentioned.
Happening a lot more frequently now though, I can only assume its due to lack of people playing bg’s.
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Git gud ![:woman_shrugging:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/woman_shrugging.png?v=6" ":woman_shrugging:")
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not every battleground is perfectly balanced. this is going to be true in every game that has matchmaking - more balance requires more time waiting in queue. they gotta call it at some point.
over time, it should more or less be 50/50 whether your team has the edge or theirs does.
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Are you talking about random bg’s? Cuz random bgs isnt like lfr where the que will pop up when you get a set number of roles to que up.
I still like to know why cd do not have timer on them. I some times get hit with same one before otehr expire.
just to pvp every now and then all the things you said and the reward system isnt worth anything when i can get better gear from invasions and emissaries.
also marks and honor are useless which all this added up to me makes wow battle grounds useless to do other then to do one if you are bored.
at least wod had pvp vendors and good class design.
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WoW existed for a few years before they tried adding voice chat the first time, except what they added was a broken mess with terrible quality in a world where people who cared enough already used Teamspeak or other alternatives.
Then they waited a decade to try again.
Very few people who have played a game with text-only for 13+ years are going to feel compelled to now jump into in-game voice chat with the people who are usually spamming “WOW YOU ALL SUCK. JUST GIVE UP” in Instance chat.
A game has to have voice chat built in from the start as a default thing (not an optional channel to join) for people to actually use it.
Even then, it’s not uncommon for people to avoid it. Go play basically anything on Xbox Live these days. Nearly every game has 80% of the people being entirely silent because they’d rather unplug their mic or sit in a party chat with their existing friend circle.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love if people actually adopted in-game voice, even for casual content, but it’s not gonna happen, therefore there’s no reason to bother hopping in even if you like the idea yourself.
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Perhaps BG’s aren’t something you should be spending your time doing?
I’m doing them because it is something to do that ties up under an hour and feels better than running useless instances giving useless gear and to low xp.
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My only issue with BG would be lack of rewards. ITs a slot machine for a piece of gear that you may or may not need and honor is useless since our current devs hate PVP gear for honor.
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What’s the point of engaging in competition if you might lose? What is this madness???
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WOD may have had issue, most egregious to me was them trying to remove flying then putting in the “pathfincer” which allows them to keep flying out of any relevant content, The flying debacle was ll on bliz, and they could remover flying as an issue anytime they want.
But WOD PVP vendors with honor and conquest gear that you bought at your own speed an in the order you wanted and it scaled up to around mythic ilvl but with pvp stats in pvp was about perfect.
so aye, RNG gearing is beyond bad also, and bliz shoold revert to pve and pvp gear vendors IMHO.
I have never heard anyone say they preferred not having them, nor have I heard anyone celebrate the epic failure that pvp templates was in legion.
Maybe some white knights or people with schadenfreude, but no others I have personally talked with have.
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This is a problem with PvP in general. Healers are the only thing that matter. I was watching the top rated BG team in the world give their strat to the newest map and it’s just like what you’d expect.
Get three healers, split groups with one healer each, lopside one group with 4 dps instead of just 3 dps so you have an easier time killing the enemy healer. Then use your numbers advantage to swing the rest of the map in your favor.
Whichever team has the best healer wins. Everyone else is irrelevant. Heals are the lifeblood of your team. This is unlike any other game in competitive PvP. Even Blizzard titles.
In OW you can kill Mercy 1v1. In HotS you can kill Malfurion 1v1. It’s up to you as a team to protect the healer so the healer is enabled to do their job. Unlike WoW where you can never win 1v1 vs the other healer. 1v2 is still tricky. 1v3 1v4 etc you got to play PERFECT with everyones CD’s flawlessly timed and CC evenly spread just to take out a healer.
In WoW the healer is god and both teams in the map worship them. They’re the number one focus and the win condition that decides which team is victorious. How people still find this fun after all these years is beyond me… we had a brief graceful moment in early Legion where healers could die 1v1 and all they did is complain. Whine moan cry. And now this is the result.
TLDR: If healers were actually balanced, then you could have teams with 3 healers losing against a team with 0 healers and this never would be an issue anymore. Better players should win, not better classes or roles.
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Battlegrounds is a place where all intelligence goes out the window.
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Fight on roads.
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Attacking tanks that healers are keeping them up and ignoring healers.
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Not defending bases.
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Not calling on incomings.
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No one working together for the team. Proof is the one with the titan orbs. Everyone fights in the middle ignoring orbs.
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This one seems like the most common one happening in battlegrounds at the moment. People wail on the dps/tank and wonder why its not dying.
What is always fun when the other team has alot of healers and you can’t kill a healer because its being healed by another healer.
or that people barely stun or cc and just let them free cast.
Umm… why are you naked?
Like watching 2 healers having a duel.
1 million years later: They still at it.
10 million years later: They still dueling.
999 Trillion years later: They still dueling. And duel times out with a stalemate.