What is the current state of Arathi?

The Horde did not lose the war. The two factions reuinited and just mutually agreed to stop handing you humiliation.

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May have misunderstood me, I meant I was the one that AFKed lmao.

We lost both war fronts, our Warchief abandoned us, and generally accomplished nothing. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

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We did a permanent injury to the Alliance in ending the Night Elves as a relevant faction in Kalimdor. Now all that are left are the Draenei to mop up.

The Night Elves do not have the numbers to hold what they’ve taken back. Some concessions in Ashenvale are due.

He said he AFK’d out when he saw me, and the Horde was getting destroyed.

Also, in my time, I was THE highest rated. But, who’s counting? :stuck_out_tongue:
Jk, I’m actually very proud of my achievements.

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No we didn’t. We burned up abunch of civilians and then immediately lost Darkshore and probably Ashenvale when their actual army came back. Our Warchief also blew up one of our only strongholds in the Eastern Kingdoms, and allowed the Kingdom of Stromgarde to be reborn. This was not #Winning.

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True.

Less than clear.

Given the current makeup of the Horde government, I find that unlikely.

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I do like to imagine this gives the canon win of the Arathi Basin Battleground to the Alliance as well.

More like the Horde made itself the irrelevant faction in Kalimdor when it couldn’t even hold Darkshore against the Night Elves.

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Simplest solutions work best.

The Alliance won the warfront, so it won the things directly implicated in the warfront.

Stromgarde is rebuilt. The Horde military is driven from the area. They probably still hold Hammerfall, the area around the wall is a quest hub, but I’d never call that a settlement.

The local problems probably still exist, they just aren’t prominent threats- so Ogres, Amani, etc. Syndicate elements likely still haunt the countryside. But, the Alliance position, based out of a secure Stromgarde, is easily in the strongest state it has been during the events reflected in WoW.

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OK … I know this is going to be a weird thing to say, but with the Alliance canonically getting Arathi and Stromgarde back … I’d be sort of OK with them getting Hillsbrad and at least the southern portion of Silverpine too. Give them Gilneas and a nice solid overland route to the Alliance, and that serves as the Alliance’s Northern Border on EK. Alterac stays with the Frostwolves, everything North of Ambermill in Silverpine stays with the Forsaken. The Forsaken and BEs solidify their borders by taking official political territorial control over the Plaguelands in exchange.

EDIT: Make Stratholme a full fledged Forsaken city, or even their new Capital as they work to decontaminate Lordaeron and UC.

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Should Stromgarde become a living, active kingdom again, I don’t think it’d be out of line for them to want the Horde to leave their territory. That’d be like after the Second War, when the Stormwind refugees finally returned to Elwynn Forest after years in Lordaeron, they decided to let the Horde have a chunk to themselves. Because it wouldn’t be right to ask them to leave, since in the ancient past it was all Gurubashi territory.

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You keep repeating this, but it is factually incorrect. The two sides entered an armistice. Neither has claimed victory.

Doesn’t the fact that he appointed the Supreme Commander, who is answerable to him, imply that Anduin is very much in charge?

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I think the phrase you’re looking for is delusions.

Am I missing something? According to your profile, you have a 51% win rate in 2v2 and that is it.

This makes sense. As usual, from Caedmun.

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arathi and lordaeron are the new gilneas

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He did make a thread about it. His reasoning… was not quite convincing, to me.

I believe it is conjecture and supposition, at best. Horse-pucky.

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I haven’t pushed this season because Arenas are boring and a terrible experience. Check my history. :slight_smile:

I mean I proved myself by your guys’ standards, even though I believe rating doesn’t truly mean anything.

More on topic, Hammerfall will be a sentimental loss, for sure. I will always remember my Troll Rogue in Vanilla first arriving. Meeting the Black Bride and being intrigued by what back story she might have.

I hope it remains in Horde hands somehow… but that seems unlikely. Ah well. Blizzard deigned to have the Alliance win. It would be great if the Black Bride survives, and is relocated, if the place is infact lost.

Honestly the Horde does deserve to lose something. Since both Theramore and Southshore were such important locations for the Alliance back in Vanilla. I’d argue absolutely moreso than Hammerfall was for the Horde.

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Sylvanas’ Horde lost the war and an armistice was formed with the new Horde government. I’d also point out the Alliance victory condition was to kick Sylvanas out which it did accomplish.

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Who are the “guys” in this scenario? Story Forum? Nobody here gives a damn what your made up rating was. You just randomly interjected it to try and sound cool. The only “standards” you should try to prove yourself to is actually being truthful and not consistently coming in with a crappy uninformed opinion.

It’s a struggle to even follow your trainwreck of thought sometimes.