What is it with Blizzard and Timers?

You just killed Torghast for me. You are just turning Torghast into a mythic+. If I wanted to race a timer I would run Mythic+. Rewards tied to a timer will make me never step foot into it again.

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Says speed will factor into a score (among other things like kills and deaths- and it sounded like the death counter is gone? ) but it is unclear what that score will determine.

I’ve only soloed torghast, I gather this will impact me exactly 0%. Dunno what your situation is OP. Might not be that impactful.

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Is this for a new mode or something? Not understanding the purpose of scoring people in Torghast

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Making/incentivizing players to go faster allows for a play motivator in addition to statistical difficulty and loot.

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I don’t think you get Soul Ash proportionate to the time you clear a floor.

It’s just there for a statistic measurement.

If the rewards are based on the time it takes for people to clear things, oh boy…

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They’re trying to turn it into an esport they can monetize because you know next year will be a Torghast Event with rewards that is streamed.

:cookie:

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Maybe look up the insanely long list of posts where people are crying about dying on the final boss and getting no reward. They didn’t do this just because they felt like it.

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Swaps to BM.

Perhaps Blizz’s datamining determined there is a lot of overlap between the folks who enjoy running Torghast and who run M+. If so, this is a good move as it will appeal to their competitive natures.

I need my soul ash fix… gotta… gotta upgrade… Legendary… Gotta…

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to be fair you could easily find post from last year(and I’m sure this one) of people asking for torghast leaderboards and scoring system. many players felt there was no incentive to continue going back after completing their legendary and TC, so this gives them purpose.

No, no, I’m pretty sure every decision is made purely because the devs hate the player base. Should be obvious by now.

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If it’s for a new mode than whatever.

If it’s for the base mode for soul ash than this is really stupid.

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This is going to be broken unless they make the time lenient or have it based off individual specs. Tank and healer specs shouldn’t be forced against a timer or into another spec to clear this in time. And how will they handle groups?

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I hate mythic+ because of the timer, and now it’s going in Torghast? If that determines what you get from it, I’ll just stop doing it. I really liked just taking my time and clearing everything at my own pace. If I’m constantly in the go go go mentality, I just do not enjoy playing at all.

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Unless you’re going to be teaming up with elitists to run this or want to beat your own previous solo speed, just continue doing what you’re doing now.

Devs - Torghast is almost universally hated - how can we make it worse?
New guy - Add a timer?
Devs - promote this guy

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Well, if this is tied to rewards, and goes live in ANY way …

They just lost a ton, of the few people, who actually enjoyed ghast, including myself. Those of us doing it for fun were mostly, from what I can tell, people who went through it methodically, clearing out every corner and checking every nook and cranny. If you put us on a score system based on a timer, and then tie loots to your score? That completely destroys the content for us.

This mentality is absurd. M+ got their ‘gogogo’ because enough people wanted it. Good, great, give some people what they asked for. But, now it’s bleeding into other content? Why don’t we just put the whole game on a timer?

Those people are ridiculous. Do they expect to fight through the trash in a raid or dungeon, get to the boss, not be able to kill it, and then get loot anyways? Of course they don’t.

If loot was their reasoning for doing this then they could have just made each boss drop something instead of just the last one. Not introduce yet another system that adds competition and urgency for no reason other than ‘getting more people in’ and not ‘having more fun’. Oh, yeah, that’s right. They have lost the ability to monetize fun. It’s way easier to make something competitive and have streamers make the money for you.

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I guess you didn’t read it all then.

Let me emphasize this part:

Right now, if you die on the floor 6 boss, you get…zip! Zero. Goose egg. The big bagel. Nada. You get a “30 minutes of your life you’ll never see again” achievement certificate in the mail.

Even worse in TC.

No doubt whatever timer they have will be reasonable. Folks able to run through it to get their quest done or some level of Soul Ash, just like before.

Adding this element incentivizes folks that want to do better. Some folks actually like this content and this gives them reasons to go back and try again.

“Go fast, take chances” as they say.

If all you want is some dollop of Soul Ash lazily walking through the thing, that’s fine too.

Remember, you get the chest at the end of an M+ if you beat the timer or not, this is the same thing.

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Wow, Ion actually said “You always want to do better, but you’re never leaving empty handed—unless you, like, fail on the first floor and your run ends there, that’s okay.”

elitist jerk much? sorry we’re not all sweaty tryhards who play wow 24/7 and are able to complete the first floor

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