Just a few notes from starting to PVP again.
Ret pally needs a huge nerf. I cannot believe how much damage they can get out while also ignoring virtually all CC and incoming damage that would kill anyone else.
Aimed shot for MM needs a bit of a nerf.
Hybrid healing needs a nerf.
Not sure about healers.
Which spec? I see mages do more HPS than casted heals from non healers.
Also, hybrid is an outdated concept. They are dps. All dps can heal for the most part, just differently depending on the kit.
ok, self healing in general is crazy high for a lot of dps specs.
There’s some things to complain about but I don’t think self sustain through healing is one of them right now.
Mage OP barrier is the only thing that comes to mind. Maybe a really good boomkin during HoTW. Everything else feels fine given the damage.
Edit: LoH. It should be impacted by dampening. Criminal that it isn’t.
Main thing is ret dmg is way too high. PVP is in a bad state
Yeah, we all hate ret. We have Tuesday get together on it, and share milk and cookies. You’re welcome to attend.
I’m bringing noodles and sake to the next one!
(I have so many in my bank it’s honestly kind of concerning)
BTW are people win trading etc or something? I am in so many games RBG people are just throwing hard but stranger even for skirms etc people are just going afk
Is win trading etc going on? though dont know why someone would do that for a arena skirm
There’s nothing to win trade in a skirm. I’m honestly surprised when I get an actual 2v2 or 3v3 in there.
Could be anything - checking their UI for something, it’s still broke, so they afk out to fix it, etc.
But, no. People are not win trading skirmishes. I’m not even sure what that would look like.
Ok because its happened several times now the healer starts and pretends he is going to heal and just goes AFK and is standing there. I am noticing the same few people over and over again too.
I had a healer die and yell “I QUIT!” In chat and refuse to Rez after that
How do people not get punished for blatantly throwing games like that?
Are you talking about skirms as level 73? Or just posting on this char?
I wouldnt take those seriously, even at max level. Think of it as practice or exhibition play. They keep score, but it doesn’t matter. Just practice your own play, and be amazed if you get placed on a semi competent team in BGs or skirms.
This goes for Blitz too.
I agree, and would like to add that frost mage needs a damage buff, e.g., revert the previous ffb nerf for pvp only 
How the game put this people in so bad mood so this happen? why people constantly throw BGs and even go AFK on rated content? i don’t see this happening so frequently in other games…fix the game so people don’t leave
Game needs a balance pass. This is why people quit pvp.
I get in as a dk, ret pally goes immune off start blows up all CD and the DH decides to fly in air and is NUKING the crap out of me while they in the air. This is 10 sec into the match.
What is the counterplay?
For the ret, there isn’t any, which is exactly why Ret needs such a nerf. There is nothing in the game you can throw at them that they don’t have an answer for.
The DH I would say maybe AMS and stand directly under them and see if you can death grip them down. No clue if it works but that’s what I’d try. On my warlock I run under them and put them in a fear, and then they gently float down unable to do anything, so maybe grip would work 
Death grip does not work but I do appreciate the suggestions.
I was curious about ret so I got on mine and WOW haha. Indeed its a juggernaut.
Worst season I’ve experienced in a long time. One spec being 30% of all solo shuffle participants should be proof enough. Healers catching on to priest dmg is just icing on the turd cake. It feels terrible to play rn, and even weirder with it being the last season of the xpac.
Gonna play Legion remix and leave the rets and voidweavers to battle it out themselves the remainder of the xpac.
If this happens theyll do the bare min or just stand still for the rest of the match