cool. thanks for the info.
Unfortunately GDKP took over really hard towards the end of Classic and the beginning of TBC.
Was genuinely kinda difficult to get into a group that wasnât doing GDKP. Which really sucks because if you donât have the time to make a ton of gold in the game, you kinda get locked out of gear or not brought to a raid at all.
The reason it took over though does make sense.
The bonuses to the system are as follows:
- People can guarantee they get the gear they want if it drops by having the most money to throw at it.
- People can put in much less work than in required simply by having gold (normally acquired through illegal means) and wont have to run a raid nearly as much as they did when relying on luck.
- People can buy gear without having to actually play the game at all, some people literally just set their character to follow and buy stuff when it comes up.
- It incentivizes people who normally wouldnât want to run the raid (because they have everything already) to come and help out because they will get some kind of payoff for their time in the form of gold.
- For many players it just works better in terms of value, they can go to work for an extra few hours, make some extra money, and use that money to buy more gold than they could ever hope to earn by putting the same amount of time into the game as farming time.
So overall the system really took off because of basic old incentivization and it just worked out better for peopleâs time if they were wiling to engage in underhanded gold making tactics.
Personally, I hate GDKPs. Iâm not gonna cheat in the game but I also didnât have an incredible amount of time to play the game in Classic. So when GDKPs started taking off I was pretty disgusted. End up getting soft locked out of content because youâre not willing to put real money into it in some cases. =/
GDKP would probably die off if the gold bots were dealt with though, or at the very least be more affordable to the average player.
One point I forgot to mention, the GDKP system helped a lot with leavers and people who would bail the moment they got to the boss that dropped their gear and didnât get it, because if your performance was too low (grey parses) and you didnât join as a âpure buyerâ you wouldnât get a payout. Same if you left early, no payout to leavers.
GDKP and DKP are similar in a sense to whoever has the most is in control.
Big difference, GDKP is transferrable from group to group.
First, donât join a GDKP. There are always non GDKP runs going for players not trying to spend money for gear.
The best part about GDKPs is the effort applied by raiders. Penalties and a chance to not receive your cut of the pot for being lazy or poor play keeps players engaged at a higher level.
Youâll find the average SR group to have much more deadweight then any GDKP. At first I used to think GDKPs were tricks from great players to get gold from âlowâ performers, but itâs not. It just makes people accountable.
Oh Iâm not denying the benefits to using the system, I just donât like it.
Never liked having my money drained on an item then not getting brought back for more GDKP runs because I wasnât buying anything.
Just didnât have the time to acquire the money required to support it, so despite the benefits, I just hated the system.
Did this happen to you numerous times or did you just avoid GDKPs because this is an expected outcome?
It sounds like a pyramid scheme to the top players who are already established to then reap the rewards for themselves and alternate characters. So youâre telling me friends and guildies are too cut-throat to actually help someone who needs something? The communities decisions affect the whole game. If your alt isnât ready for aq or naxx then itâs not ready. This is just wild, piggy-backing is lame, and unimaginative gameplay. Just like people who cry nerf the warrior. Maybe our healers need to start really showing whoâs boss in Azeroth.
I routinely did GDKPs while broke knowing I would get zero gear, because I knew I would at least get a payout. Eventually I had enough gold that I could afford to buy stuff. it would be like 2-3 runs with no gear, followed by a run where I won something, rinse and repeat. what is the issue?
Thereâs not really an issue with it. People donât like that it is heavily inflated with RMT tho pretty much.
I donât like them because itâs boring playing with a bunch of random ppl instead of guild
How much did DFT go for in your runs on ally
I do prefer a proper guild, but sometimes you miss a guild raid and itâs great to have some GDKP runs to fill the gaps.
Multiple times. Unfortunately it was a bit of a run around in TBC with them as I needed to do them to make money but people wouldnât bring me because I couldnât outbid people and thus wasnât buying anything.
Couldnât qualify as a âcarryâ for the raid either for a long time because of the lacking gear.
Still was able to do all the content in TBC and see everything but it definitely sapped the fun out of the game with all the run-arounds.
We had a DFT go for 30k in one of the ones I got in in classic.
Thatâs definitely how a lot of them were.
GDKP has some positives but it just ainât worth the cost IMO.
meanwhile in SoM they went for like 1500-3000
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Uh no.
You werenât selling DFTs for 3k gold.
I assure you you are mixing this up with something else
Dft is one of the top 5 items in game
So was the GDKP crazy high prices problem still prevalent in SoM too?
Well idk I had a friend of mine move over 100k gold to his wrath server lol. And som only lasted like 7-8 months.
So yeah Iâd say so
SoM made even the best items affordable for everyone
you have no right to speak of it, you didnât play SoM
Okay then. Iâll ping my buddy in discord who ran with the GDKP and see how much DFT was going for.
Cause you canât even get a lokamir for that price
Thatâs an incredible amount of money for classic lol
Grats to him for making that much in a quickened classic experience.