What is a META and is it even worth doing?

As the title says, I don’t know what meta’s are…

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It’s basically the classes/specs that people think are good.

Specs that people think are good are often over-valued compared to how good they actually are, and ones people think are bad are undervalued compared to how actually good they are.

The reality is that everything is fine, and that player skill matters far more than what class they are.

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Is there a patch notes i can look into?

We don’t know what the meta’s going to stabilize into for next season, since any even the 11.2 patch notes (that should go up sometime this weekend), will be out of date week 2 of the season (early season will have very frequent tuning updates).

There are two WoW definitions for meta:

  1. The current “Flavor of the Month”, or what everyone is using in terms of Classes and Specs

  2. A “Meta” achievement is one that encompasses the entirety of an Expansion. To get it, you must complete every system, rep, quest, rare, everything the xpac has to offer. They are made up of dozens of sub-achievements.

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META stand for “most effective tactics available”. aka, the best you can do, be it spec talents, gear, rotations, ect. just look my “best gear for X” or “best talents for X” on places like wowhead or/and icyvains

also note you dont have to play the meta. if your doin solo stuff and are happy with how your going its fine. when you start doing group stuff, more so higher end stuff then people may complain about you not doing high damage to stuff like that

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Its a token word people have coined to try to force people into using builds that appear to be the only choice they think people should be making. Often times people will shun others from their gameplay based on meta prejudice. Anyone that disagrees with using these builds then get excluded from content which leads to group kick abuse.

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It’s mostly an M+ thing and it basically means “what has the kit currently to be able to survive in a dungeon that basically just one shots you and is 100% dependent on gear, stamina, DR and kicks”, that’s all it is.

Something can only be meta if it does everything and is good at everything basically, if you hadn’t noticed from what Yoda and all the title players are saying in their tier list videos.
You can’t look at tier lists, you need to actually listen to what the players are saying.

Basically, if your spec doesn’t have a good prio, good AOE, good survivability, good damage AND doesn’t bring some type of stat buff to the group, it cannot be meta as it will be 1 shot in a +22 or it will under perform to the point where it doesn’t make sense to bring it or it doesn’t bring a raid buff while simultaneously fitting in, therefore, cannot be brought.

There are only so many specs who fit that criteria, hence you get what’s known as the “meta”. If every single spec did everything, there wouldn’t be a meta, instead we’d be in the “OMG EVERYTHING IS ALL THE SAME LIKE A MOBA!!!” paradigm. Pick your poison.
(For the record, I have no problem with MOBA homogenization and would almost prefer that in M+ over having to meta game)

Usually paladin and shaman and mage. I play what I enjoy. I don’t care what the meta is.

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It’s something that has existed way before M+ or even the creation of World of Warcraft.

And there is also META in MOBA games, at least in League of Legends that is the one i have played a lot of time.

You get tank meta, assassin meta, adc meta, control mage meta, support with Ardent Censer meta, poke meta, etc…

And don’t agree, i don’t see how there is homogenization in a game like LoL, a lot of champions even in the same role play way different.

We’re on a WoW forum talking about WoW, so I’m keeping it in WoW and in WoW it’s M+.

That means the character is broken and the game is imbal and I wouldn’t be playing it.
I played Bloodline Champions/Battlerite and Heroes of the Storm, those don’t have gear or metas, but they had busted heroes (until they were balanced).

I said MOBAs, I didn’t say LoL. LoL isn’t the only MOBA.
Also “playing differently” doesn’t mean the mechanics aren’t homogenized.

short idiotic answer: people who believe the most popular class automatically makes them OP asf and too lazy to look up how to play it.

anything imo can be meta if you take the time and learn to master it. will you be desirable in pugs? lol no. but is it something you enjoy and you’re probably better than 60-70% of players who define meta as my one sentencer? Yes.

i’ll admit when i first started out i went with my idiotic definition but i had justified it in my head a lot better at the time, i only learned otherwise because of the friend i RAISED and TAUGHT how to play wow.

META = most efficient/effective tactic available

There will always be one, regardless of how people feel about it

I don’t think I have ever seen this happen once

No one looks at your build in game.

People in game just look at results. Your perform or you don’t.

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Such as fury warrior in big pulls, or aug voker’s overall dps contribution ?

Surely boomies and arcane mages are overrated when compared to those underrated specs.

I also love holy paladins to heal me. That’s when a key 10 feels like a key 15. Who doesn’t want a feeling of playing higher keys when you don’t actually have them ?

It happens in a lot of games. Its never happened to me personally but ive seen players profess that if you arent meta they dont allow you in their group/ team whatever.

Usually it means playing a specific class or specialization using cookie-cutter builds.

It is strong and effective at whatever they do and likely as close to “easy mode” as you’re going to get depending on what you want to do but it does carry the risk of being nerfed as often everyone flocks to exploit the meta to their own advantage at any given time.

I haven’t been keeping up with the meta lately but if you browse at things like the M+ meta, I believe classes like the Warrior suffer in terms of pick ability at higher key levels as they lack little to no utility as compared to most other classes who have, stuns, better mobility, buffs etc.

At the end of the day you should play what you enjoy, damn the meta. Though if you’re looking to go toe-to-toe with people who have nothing else other than WoW then chasing the meta is the way to go as a starting point.

Acshually, it’s from greek prefix, meta.

Which was used in the “metagame” terminology.

It encompasses more than just the aforementioned acronym, though it’s usually used as is.

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Based on what you’re shooting for probably not worth going for the meta yet.

Rather focus on the basics and ccs/ints.

My response was within the context of WoW

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