What if WoW had a PvP focused expansion?

[Simpforjaina-frostmourne]

@Malgorok-zuljin

Game just dies instantly as the 104 PvP players are all that remain

103, I stopped playing PvP in TWW.

[Pyrogar-kargath]

@Trunchbull-earthfury

Not at all, the idea isn’t “no plot.” The story could revolve around a massive, ongoing war where PvE and solo content feed the faction’s progress, while PvP players fight for territory, objectives, and rewards. The plot is just framed around player-driven conflict rather than only scripted PvE events.

Ok, so that just sounds like BfA lol.

@Trunchbull-earthfury

We’ve defeated all the major villains, Old Gods, the Lich King, and every world-ending threat. With no new “big bad,” the story naturally shifts to player-driven conflict: PvP becomes the central narrative, while PvE still supports the war effort with resources, siege tools, and faction-wide bonuses.

I’m p sure Ion’s pitch to us for BfA was quite literally that lol.

[Skizzic-proudmoore]

@Jerauld-uther

it’s purely optional

LOL, since when was that ever a reason for people to not complain. On any forums. Not just WoW GD

[Clysta-farstriders (Clysta)]

it would be the first expansion I would 100% not buy

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Pyrogar-kargath

Ok, so that just sounds like BfA lol.

BfA was a faction conflict war story. There was no focus on PvP gameplay.

[Yukongold-kelthuzad]

@Jerauld-uther

Create a PvP DLC that caters to those players, make it $10 and see how many players buy it.

I’d say a million people at least on the low end.

[Elmarin-moon-guard]

It would be more cost effective to take the game servers out back and magdump them

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

@Trunchbull-earthfury

@Studmuffyn-veknilash

do you think this would be a financially sound idea though honesty?

Remember when Blizzard said Classic would never happen and many thought it would flop? It turned out to be a huge success. A well-designed PvP-focused expansion could do the same, even if people think it’s risky, thoughtful systems could engage both PvE and PvP players.

Lol no one thought it would flop, and they never said ‘never’, they just weren’t convinced it would be financially sound.

Making an pvp focused expansion would be a HUGE mistake, WoW is and always been primarily a PVE based game, your idea only appeals to a small minority of players, so if your goal is to kill WoW , that would do it,lol.

You don’t fundamentally change a game after 21 years, like i said, ask for a game mode like plunderstorm.

[Hrmeiya-thrall]

Be the first time since shadowlands I stopped my sub and waited til the next expac.

It woukd be shadowlands again but worse.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

@Trunchbull-earthfury

@Pyrogar-kargath

You want an expansion with no plot and just a random ffa between players and you expect writers and developers to put such a thing together?

Not at all, the idea isn’t “no plot.” The story could revolve around a massive, ongoing war where PvE and solo content feed the faction’s progress, while PvP players fight for territory, objectives, and rewards. The plot is just framed around player-driven conflict rather than only scripted PvE events.

We’ve defeated all the major villains, Old Gods, the Lich King, and every world-ending threat. With no new “big bad,” the story naturally shifts to player-driven conflict: PvP becomes the central narrative, while PvE still supports the war effort with resources, siege tools, and faction-wide bonuses.

So the vast majority of people who prefer pve get no story, no raids,no dungeons, and no content that they have enjoyed for 21 years?

Just ask for another Wintergrasp,lol

[Undraxis-arygos (Undraxis)]

Frankly if they made a pvp focused expansion I would quit through the entire expansion. PVP is just too stressful in general and I’m here to relax. I dont play anything that has competition between players at this stage of my gaming life unless it was playable offline.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

If its 100% optional sure.

[Velviita-windseeker]

“What if WoW had a PvP focused expansion”

Only in an alternate reality.

1. Too much tantrum/crying from the PvE base
2. Blizz doesn’t know how to design and balance for fun unrated PvP which is what most people want to play
3. Too much $$ would be lost due to the above.

[Yukongold-kelthuzad]

Even if it’s not optional, it would sell a million at the very least on the low end, I’d think maybe 5-6 would be a more honest assumption though.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

Why not 15 or 20 million?

[Leynia-emerald-dream]

@Trunchbull-earthfury

Some players say Battle for Azeroth was the “PvP expansion” because of War Mode and faction themes, but to me it was still PvE-first: raids, dungeons, grinds… PvP was just a side activity again.

It was though. A lot of the main story and quests in BFA involved the faction conflict.
Unfortunately war mode also showed that, for whatever reason, most players preferred PvE. I know because that was the expansion that destroyed world PvP on my server. I’d estimate less than 10% of the player base on my server turned war mode on.

It is unfortunate but the reality is modern retail WoW is not and cannot be PvP focused. I wish it was but the best we can hope for is better PvP content to be added alongside anything else.

[Prelani-doomhowl]

@Malgorok-zuljin

Game just dies instantly as the 104 PvP players are all that remain

This. Whenever I finish my PVE goals on WoW and nobody in my guild is logging on I hop on league 10/10 times. The days of wow pvp being a thing worth investing time into is wayyyyyyyyyy in the past now.

[Yukongold-kelthuzad]

You seem to be the “expert” lol figure it out yourself. I can see it easily making 100 million copies sold, how about that?

[Huntenei-dreadmaul]

@Trunchbull-earthfury

mostly because it’s always been treated as a side activity

I actually think PVP was the eng game back in the day. Once you were done with your raid, you would do PVP.

IMO, there are so many better PVP games out there that WOW just doesn’t cut it and you can do play one of those free PVP games if you want to get your PVP fill

[Brainstorm-area-52]

battle for azeroth should have given us this pvp focused stuff