What if support was

not a single spec, but instead the whole idea of the Evoker class.
Devastation with their damage spells would debuff enemies so they receive more damage from all sources.
Augmentation would provide stats to their allies so they all do more damages.
Preservation would provide shields and hp regen so they survive better.

Oh wait, we’re almost there, just need to tweak devastation a bit.

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No thanks.

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Absolutely not.

I like the idea. Could be a lot of fun. Monks have a similar debuff for physical attacks.

No, monks just automatically apply a 5% debuff, they’re in no way a support class (re)designed around debuffing enemies, which is being suggested here.

Personally hate the idea, DH and Monks already have the debuff thing, Dev doesn’t need to get ruined even more by stealing from other class designs. Aug already stole enough design requests from Dev, we don’t gotta continue the cycle.

What is being suggested is to debuff our enemies which I replied that monks have something similar…which they do. You are focusing on the word support and not so much what he is asking for how this to be executed. He made no mention to any other changes. So… /shrug. Still like it.

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Crazy how I’d focus on the word support in a thread where OP is suggesting to rework the entire Evoker class as a support, right?

There’s a massive difference between designing a spec around debuffing enemies to take more dmg from all sources vs a basic debuff that’s functionally no different than warrior battle shout.

Almost like they said to add debuffs and not to lower damage or change every ability. Lol.

They quite literally never said this, lol.

You’re right. Lol. They never said it…so why are you insinuating they are wanting to do a “complete rework of the class”? All they said was to add debuffs. That’s it.

Because to functionally add support debuffs to a dps spec that already does full dps is to not understand how this game works, at all.

And adding debuffs to a spec while literally changing nothing about it does not make it a support, it just makes it a much stronger dps. They are not the same thing.

You either need to rework the spec (no thanks) or you need to nerf the damage output to account for the attribution to your group from the debuff (also no thanks).

Lol. Wait until you find out how Bombardment works.

You’re calling bombardment support now? lol.

I guess you need to figure out how it works.

The damage from bombardments is owned by the evoker, not anyone triggering it.

Yep. Totally calling that a support spec…That we share with Aug. Why do you keep editing what you are saying to change the goal posts?

How can I move a goal post if my edit happens before you respond?

You’re as confused about argumentation as you are about the basics of this conversation.

I’m sorry you have to keep changing what you are saying to sound correct.

If I were changing what I were saying after you responded to it, it would show the edit number on the post. That’s how the forums work.

You’re either a horrible troll, or horribly simple.

Keep in mind you replied to me. I didn’t reply to you. I was just saying I liked the idea and you decided to reply to me to change my opinion? Because it just upset you that much for me to like the idea…I guess? Lol. I’m sorry you feel that way.

It’s remarkable that so many people think the forums are just an echo chamber for bad ideas.

Me responding to your opinion with my own opinion is why the forums exist. If I’ve offended your fragile constitution because I didn’t agree with you, I hope someone gives you a nap and a snack and you wake up less sensitive.

Have a good one!