What if Blizzard increased sub price and was able to push for better content like previous expansions

Millions of players who didn’t do a single raid prior to LFR (Blizzard themselves said that most players did NOT raid) would beg to disagree. The game was not raid or die. Even Cata and MoP had lots of content without LfR.

Just because YOUR perception of the game is raid or die because you need to raid, that doesn’t mean most players felt that way.

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I’d laugh. How u gonna justify better content for higher pay when u can’t even do it as is?

I do it for a living and get paid very little yet continue to try my best and work hard. I work as a cook. The ingredients we get are nothing fancy he’ll often it’s bottom of the barrel type of sh*@^. We still have to turn it into a dish that people will like.

Would u go to a restaurant pay 100+ for a meal because the ingredients were higher end yet the dish tastes like cat food? No. Thus why business would go down.

It is no different then wow. Some people will like it some hate it thus why we cater to the majority yet still have options to cater to people who are unpleased by the meal.

It’s not to just save face but the reality that without customers we have no job. Bills gotta get paid, competition is high.

WoW is an afterthought. It may be one of the biggest selling points in Blizzards history but that is all that it is now - history.

When Activision took over they had a steady stream of money. They realized all they had to do was free it up from time to time to keep the cash flowing and that’s all they have done.

The only thing that will happen to WoW is that it will die. This is what has killed other MMORPGs before. Look at the entire Warhammer fiasco that killed what would have been a huge competitor to WoW back in the day.

FF14’s mistakes were only corrected after the entire damn company came out and admitted that they had failed the playerbase and were willing to do whatever it took to correct that mistake. It took years of failures and lost money before they came up with the FF14 we know today - a game giving Runescape and WoW a serious run for their money.

This is not something ActiBlizz will ever do. They will can the project long before they consider pulling a Square Enix.

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Short answer… no.

Sour and real opinion…
For what a player pays for each expansion and 2 years of sub, 420 bucks, it feels lacking in several areas already.
They would have to make a drastic improvement across the board with communication, engaging with their audience, and interesting engaging content before it would be worth what we even pay now.

Less sour opinion.
Maybe they should introduce a teir sub program where the people that feel like its worth more can pay more… and maybe get a free shirt. While the ones that feel its worth the current cost per xpac could continue paying normal price.

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There is no reason they can’t make better content now other than they don’t want to spend all that fat cash they’re sitting on.

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Character progression was very much tied to raid or die once you finished dungeons.

You had the odd currency vendor here and there, but that only filled a handful of slots.

Provide some examples of non-raid content that doesn’t currently exist that Blizzard should be providing. Dailies and rep grinds still exist.

Why would I trust Blizzard with more money when it can’t even properly utilize the funds it already has? Blizzard doesn’t have a money problem, it has a talent and direction problem.

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NO. This is flat out not true. You think that all players in the past played like you. Most did NOT. This is a fact. Players would play through world content. Some did NO dungeons. Some did normal and some did heroic. And then those players would do casual BGs, work on professions, and LEVEL ALTS.

Most players didn’t raid and didn’t want to raid. That’s why Blizzard created LFR during Cata. Most players played through BC and Wrath and never saw the ending during the life of that expac, which was a huge problem.

You assume that every player feels they have to progress their toon all the way to the top. Most players, though, choose their own ceiling of difficulty and progress to that point and then work on alts. Or, these days, they unsub because world content is poorly designed.

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I’d pay (a lot) more for active in-game GM moderation.

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At the current sub price, and with the current numbers of subs, even though from what I have heard, the number of subs are substantially lower now than it was when SL launched, they still make hundreds of millions of dollars a year, if not billions. They can afford to provide quality content, but, IMO, they just don’t. If they could provide quality content at the current sub price before, they can continue to do so at the current sub price.

ActiBlizz’s good will has taken some serious hits since WoD, and has continued to do so since then, with few exceptions. If they had decided to provide more instances, raids, a good story, and engaging content instead of grindy, boring, content with a bad story and more limits on QOL features, they might have a lot more subs than they do now. They may never get back up 12 millions active subs, at least not with the current crew they have driving the bus, but they could have kept a lot more people if they had just listened to the player-base more often, within reason of course.

Semper Fi! :us:

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I seriously do not believe you can put lipstick on this pig. The lips are too far gone.

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I think SL is proof of this.

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So do i, frankly.

Yes 100% would support it. The game is cheap as is already. If they increased subscription costs by just a little, that would add much more room for them to put more money into development. If you are so strapped that you can’t afford a $5-10 hike extra a month, should you really be playing this game to begin with?

That’s adorable. So feisty.

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They already make a metric ton of profit a year, before we look at giving them more how about they use some of that to improve their flag ship games?

They’d just pocket the extra revenue and give the CEO another bonus for putting one over on the players.

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If what you suggest becomes true I’d probably do a increase in sub. True, meaning they actually make the game less gated and loads more rewarding so I can finish my main and move onto alts without all the frustration.

They may have to offer this up at current levels just to regain some trust and goodwill. Raising the prices on the promise of better results, given where we are, is not something I’d be comfortable with.

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how about bobby takes 100mil bonus instead of 200? :slight_smile: