What happens if WSG becomes the meta

Alliance premades vs Horde Pugs will be the name of the game.

Alliance premades will test a Horde premade. If they think it’s going to be a rollover, they will stay. If they think the Horde will be able to put up any kind of resistance that slows them, they will afk out and the instance will close sending horde back to queue again.

Alliance Pugs will afk out against Horde premades, closing the bg and sending horde back to queue again.

You heard it here first.

However, even with these changes announced today, there is a very high chance AV will still be the ranking meta. Premades should still be able to get 30ish people in pretty consistently which is plenty to dominate in 7 minute matches.

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Wouldn’t horde still premade? Just take longer in the queue. At least the option is there.

I think ally should still do very well in WSG. Any premade would have two Hpallies I’m assuming? That BOF is sweet af.

If they afk out, couldn’t horde just cap the flag super fast?

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Not likely that they could cap it fast enough before the timer to close happens and shuts it off.

Horde will premade, but they may experience higher than normal “dodges”.

This is exactly how I remember it in vanilla. And it sucked because back then we couldn’t get many horde premades going for WSG. And when it wasn’t like this, it was an hour long match of stalemating with both teams holding each others flags.

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I doubt AV will still be the meta. Horde will still turtle. If youre 5 man group gets a back filled 60 min turtle game, you honor gains are screwed. 10 man premade WSGs winning in 8 minutes for 2000-3000 honor will be the way to go

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I’d be fine if a hard earned week of top honor dropped to 100k. The folks getting 1 mil + a week are just asking for a stroke.

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Its like people have gone completely mad and forgot about all the addons that will allow alliance premading to happen still. come back to the forums in 3 - 4 weeks and there will still be topics focused on it.

Oh well.

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It would be alliance premades vs pugs, and horde premades vs pugs. My complaint with the AV number fix is that it only addresses AV… and queue dodging will become rampant in Classic just like it was in Vanilla if other bg’s become better for honor farming. If they had just given people deserter for declining a bg invite it would have solved both problems.

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Think it will end up being a 20/20 split for queues unless someone creates an addon which auto sorts BG’s

Also, the newest BG is on the bottom of the list… with or without numbers. Im sure alliance will be fine

Maybe but alot harder to queue dodge. Maybe you will just use alt to fill the older games then pop a fresh with the account that you are ranking …

Actually that is exactly what is going to happen lol. Sigh … I Hate AV.

Premades can form up into 5 man groups then use the group queue addon to all queue at the exact same time
5 man groups will decrease the chance of getting placed in a back filled game. It’s still a crap shoot

My bet is WSG becomes the new meta for honor gains. WSG kils give substantially more honor and thanks the diminishing return changes, its even better. A solid 10 man WSG premade can win in 8 minutes as well.

No one forgot. It’s more that horde was upset about:

Ally being able to nearly full premade

PLUS

Ally having instant queues

PLUS

Ally having an easy way to end the game in 7 min or less

Combined together all three makes it pretty unfun. At least now, we know we can suffer with 4 friends. Which is a lot more enjoyable.

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Well if it makes you feel any better I lost as many games in WSG last night as i have 10 years.

Friends don’t let friends drink and deathroll in WSG.

That’s all im gonna say on that.

Best friends encourage it and then give you hell later for it though

HAHA, i am no stranger to egging people on thats for sure.

Just not in my WSG!!

It’s ok though, because they didn’t need it. They were all pumped up on whiskey, beer, tequilla, I have no idea why, what the occasion was but they were determined to whoop it up by doing some group WSG and having some fun.

I wont pretend to understand all of the rules of this deathroll because i don’t do it myself (I have notiriously terrible dice) but here was one of the sequences.

1-1000 = 17
1-17 = 1

All i heard over disc was “OOOooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”

Im like guys! GUYS! EFC IS ALREADY IN MID WTF GO GET EM!

again all i hear is “J you dirty motha f…”
“run it back”
“hell no”

obviously they weren’t focused on the game lol.

But sometimes you gotta sacrifice your winrate to bond with the drunkards.

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I PreMade in WSG and haven’t had a team afk out yet, pugs or premades

:man_shrugging:

Lol. Good times.

Yeah I’ve about had it with Deathrolling. Literally it’s like

/2 LF Enchanter

Random PST: Deathroll?

Me: no, speed to boots…

Random: Deathroll?

Me: FML WTB ENCHANTER

both sides will complain about premades
premades dodges
incomlete games
etc
then blizzard will ADJUST and give horde a 2-0 advantage along with invulnerable fcs