What happens if pre patch doesn’t come out in May?

Tbh I’d love to see someone create a game that achieves 12 million active players and then just try to maintain that many players for over a decade

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I think it will be may. They are suspending transfers on april 30, and they said it will be down for a couple of weeks, at which point they will do the snapshot.

Logically, the snapshot comes directly before prepatch.

That said, if it’s later? Nothing really terrible happens, people will just come back when it does happen.

They grabbed a large audience back in 2004-2010. It has since been hemorrhaging players. What you see are blind brand loyalists that refuse to believe blizzard is a bad company now. Maybe the other game teams are doing okay but WoW is not.

They are snapshotting at the beginning of may, it absolutely has to come out in may or at the very latest early June. Can you imagine the rage if they snapshot you and you continue to play for a month and then bring over nothing you earned?

I hace no idea where you’re coming up with this, but okay.

Reality doesn’t care what people imagine will happen in the future.
Blizzard doesn’t care what players say will happen in the future.
Especially when it contradicts what Blizzard has announced.

Blizzard is “out of touch” with players’ imagined fantasies? I sure hope so!

As a retired software engineer, I KNOW that non-software people drastically under-estimate how long software projects take to complete. But I sure hope that Blizzard doesn’t under-estimate like that. Not after 30 years.

The fact that they had to stop posting sub numbers because it was bleeding players so badly it looked bad for their investors so instead they started only posting money earned which is mostly just shop purchases.

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They are catering to retail whiners on a classic version designed and brought about by vanilla/tbc players. That’s being out of touch.

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Didn’t they switch to Monthly Active Users? If you ask me, that’s a better metric to go by.

They did for their entire video game categories not just wow. This was specifically because wow was losing so many players. Not even a fifth of what it once was.

PSO2 NG comes out in June and New World comes out in August. They can’t just sit around waiting to drop Pre-Patch and then wait for the TBC launch. Not saying everyone is the same but I’ll play one of the newer games over TBC when they come out if I have to just keep waiting.

Looking at the past year’s stocks, I’m nit sure how that could be, but okay.

Cauchy, you might want to try reading an annual report. Go to the SEC website and search for Activision-Blizzard’s most recent 10k.

Edited to elaborate: Activision-Blizzard is a much bigger company than just WoW. The stock price is in no way indicative of the state of WoW. Also, the Blizzard division results include Call of Duty so those numbers don’t reflect WoW’s status either.

Most companies intentionally obfuscate exactly how well any particular product line is doing so this isn’t anything odd on A-B’s part.

I got this feeling pre patch won’t be in May they need to give advanced notice for release dates, we could even be looking at mid year who knows.

I looked at a graph that showed all the year’s activity. It had about 40% growth over the past 365 days. There were a few dips (including a small one recently, probably due to that guy leaving.) I forget which website. Just for the hell of it, I took a look at last year’s 10-k (12/31/19 - 12/31/20) and it looked fine. Everything’s in the black, and it looks like folks are still making money. It did look like things dipped toward the end, but I’d expect that considering how last year went with COVID.

I’m aware it’s a big company. People seem to think WoW is in trouble, and it’s because of the company making bad decisions, but I don’t see things that way. WoW is probably Blizzard’s most expensive game to develop and maintain. I don’t see why they’d keep it around if it’s struggling.

They put that message on the login screen. I’d guess may is a really good pin for pre-patch.

Ill sit at my desk and QQ.

Stocks have nothing to do with sub numbers at all? The stocks of the company is tied to literally every single game Activision has dude lol. This includes stuff like COD and even candy crush lol.

Even if blizzard made more money specifically for wow, this does not mean the subs are doing good. People buy a ton of in game purchases through the store, this drives up wows SALES even tho the subs could be doing terribly.

If you look at the charts of subs numbers through history you can see the path it’s taking. As well as highly professional data analyst sites have attempted to guesstimate the number of subs, and they look terrible. Wow isn’t dead by any means, and it will never really die, but their business practice is very easy to see. They release expansions as quick as possible no matter how broken they are, get a sudden surge of players, let it die back down like it always does, and then just stay on life support through the die hard wow players who spend money on mounts/tokens/etc.

This is reductive at best. It’s an old game, full of bloat. People leave for a number of reasons.

If it’s really so bad, why are you here?

It’s not reductive, that’s what it is. The game wasn’t that old when cata or mop came out but people left like crazy. They just changed their game and the majority of the playerbase obviously didn’t like it.

I’m here because I like the older versions of the game so that’s all I play btw, I’m not sure what this has to do with what I’m saying.

A poster said the subs have been tanking since 2010, and he was right, you came in and said there’s nothing that shows this so I commented to you explaining why what you said isn’t true. I’m sorry if this hurts your feelings but this is the reality of the situation.