What happened to the Wrath Gate?

I used to play during WotLK. I quit during Cata, and came back for BfA.

One of my new guildies was talking about changes to Wrath Gate - What happened? When WotLK was out, it was one of the most hype events. A great use of in-game cinematics and a genuinely powerful moment.

Apparently Sylvanas was now behind it? I thought the whole point was that she was undermined from within by Putress and her enslaved Dreadlord - I thought that was a really poignant moment for her. She had always been fairly arrogant and domineering, and I thought the idea that treachery could fester in her own ranks when she thought she had an iron grip was really interesting. When/why was this changed?

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That’s just what she claims.

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My belief is that she planned on using the new plague on the scourge. However Putress and Vari used it on the alliance / horde forces as well.

I doubt Sylvanas would want to risk her fragile alliance with the horde at that time. Considering that Thrall had the Kor’kron occupy the Undercity after reclaiming it until Garrosh recalled them to defend Orgrimmar in patch 5.4.

Sylvanas isn’t the smarted person in the world. From her own accounts she believes she slid into Frostmourne during the Third War.

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I would say that if the Lich King had been killed in the attack, she would have launched phase 2 and attacked Stormwind and Orgrimmar. Having Putress act as her scapegoat would be her contingency plan that had to be enacted to keep her in power due to the plague failing to kill the Lich King.

But of course, that would have to mean she has some actual intelligence and tactics, and isn’t just stupidly blind to things happening right beneath her nose.

The changes in Cataclysm broke the scenario. Instead of fixing it, the developers just removed it.

For the story, every failed false flag operation has to have a patsy.

Maybe they changed it because that is when Fordragon died and there will be some revenge plot later on where the lich king goes after Sylvanas because of the Wrathgate. But If they do that it is stretching the story real thin.

I have not heard anything concrete. Only rumors that she was retconned to be more aware of what putress was doing.

Its not far fetched to guess she used putress as a scapegoat to test the blight and distract everyone well doing something else.

She sure came out of nowhere and popped an arrow in his had before had any chance to say much.

ā€œI’ve heard these discussions on the internet about ā€˜she’s going off the rails’, but is she? I’ve been writing Sylvanas personally since 2006, and this is pretty much - the Wrathgate and the Blight and the Forsaken - in character. Those were all under Sylvanas’ orders. What we’re seeing now is an escalation of the plans Sylvanas has, clearly, and we’re in the middle of that.ā€ -Alex Afrasiabi

That’s the quote from the article/interview from last fall. I don’t know how you can interpret that any other way than Sylvanas knew and planned the wrathgate.

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See . . . See . . . what happened was that Putress and Vari wanted to prank the Alliance and Horde with barrels with Fart Gas. A prank that gone wrong.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

It’s called a ā€œretconā€. It’s what bad writers do when they’ve written themselves into a corner. Also, giving Sylvannas WAY too much credit in this whole scenario. She’s playing 4D chess, hoping to kill the Lich King, the horde and the alliance with new plague… but she kills herself after the Lich King dies? Ok.

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She committed suicide after Arthas was confirmed deceased.

Would someone who did that have this master plan to wipe out the alliance and horde after their main enemy was killed? Of course not.

That is one reason why I believe she only planned on using it against the scourge. Putress and Vari hijacked the plan and used it on the alliance / horde forces as well because burning legion.

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That’s true. She actually was stupid. Well, was is kinda ignoring her current actions…

Too bad, she could have been some devious mastermind, but instead she’s an incompetent dupe that somehow got put in charge of the Horde.

Slyvanas killed herself, the Val’kyr resurrected her, as she was given/given a vision of what would happen to her people if she died.

I’m personally behind the idea the Sylvanas was behind the idea of the bombing. At THAT point in time she didn’t actually give a **** about the horde, or even her own forsaken. She planned to kill Arthas then and there, it was all she wanted in her afterlife. Which is proven by the fact that she kills herself once he dies. It was only AFTER she did that did she start to panic about immortality and such.

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Yup. Total retcon. Blizz writers pulled this current Sylvannas out of their collective fanboi/grrl behinds.

(and Nathanos is someone’s weird power fantasy or something)

The funny thing is, the one who was behind a lot of Sylvanas writing now (even though he is no longer on the wow team), was the guy who wrote her short story.