Back in 2017 it was announced that there was going to be a Troll Wars novel, but it never came to be.
I wonder why that was the case.
I was looking forward to exploring this time period.
Were you interested in the novel?
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I personally wasn’t. It would of been another book justifying a genocide on Trolls and Human male/elf female interracial romance.
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(Sarcasm): No doubt they didn’t want to confuse players by having an entire novel where Humans and High Elves join forces to wipe out trolls. It’d really make Horde players wonder why their elves were fighting Trolls, a natural ally of the Horde.
(Commentary): The sad part is, some pessimistic part of me feels that my sarcastic comment may not be far off the mark.
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I think they just used that book as an IP cover for the shadowlands one, but i’m not sure.
Troll Wars has the fairly massive issue of the war basically being “Helves defiled troll holy sites for the sunwell, trolls attack them in response”
I don’t trust them to not make the Amani mustache twirling bad guys when they had a fairly good reason to be miffed. The humans only got involved because of the fact they felt the Amani might kill them after the elves for some reason.
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(Commentary): Old news. By the time of the Troll Wars, Quel’Thalas had existed for thousands of years.
(Observation): Don’t forget the Zandalari and their role in the Troll Wars either. The Amani wouldn’t have made much headway against the elves without the help of the Zandalari.
(Commentary): I can see how a novel focused on the Troll Wars would probably stir the pot for a lot of Horde players, seeing one of their races allies with the enemy (humans), and then one of their new major races fighting both elves and humans alongside another race of trolls… Blizzard doesn’t even trust us to find PvP vendors anymore for crying out loud.
This is the correct answer. There was no way Blizzard couldn’t romantice a pro colonialist story and justfying genocide without suffering a big backslash. Besides no one would had bough the book anyway to see a self insert human seducing a blonde and beatiful elfie, we have the stories of Knaak for that.
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Why are people bringing up genocide? Trolls losing the war doesn’t meant the elves/humans were trying to wipe out the Troll race.
One of the things that interests me about this era is that humanity would be far less advanced then their current selves. Only up to 100 humans learned magic from the elves during the war.
It really is a way to show a more grey side to humanity then their future Alliance selves. Because of the threat of trolls, humans went around conquering other humans (tribal ones) to form the kindgom of Arathor.
A book where it shows perspectives from both sides of the war.
Also it would be nice to read about an era that isn’t like the steampunk period of WoW.
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Remember the humans where living in the area peacefully for thousands of years, then the trolls attacked them.
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Killing trolls, in a war that trolls started, does not classify as genocide. Nor do events from 4000 years prior act as a casus belli that some how justifies the trolls offensive, imperialist war to exterminate all elves.
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Well for one, the trolls IMMEDIATELY attacked the highborne. From the looks of it with no provocation other then just passing though. Second, if I was to write said book I would focus on how the highborne left Tirisfal precisely because they didnt want a war of colonization against the humans who inhabited the place.
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The Horde killing Teldrassil wasn’t the Horde trying to wipe out the Night Elf Race. they knew the majority of the night elf army was on a boat. they knew they had massive population centers all over the known world.
The fact that they weren’t trying to wipe out the entire race doesn’t mean it wasn’t genocide.
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The elves did not have major population centers around the world. Even Anduin mentions that he was wondering how many night elves were left. Even if we dont use the term genocide, Sylvanas was about to wipe out a group of civilians who were all but ready to surrender. The trolls have never once been willing to back down.
Feralas
Winterspring
Stonetalon
Azsuna
Hyjal
Valsharrah.
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Aside from the Warden Prison the entire place is occupied by night elf GHOST, not living night elves.
Feralas is a frontier town. Most of the places you mentioned are not heavily populated. As per Anduin:
The World Tree was more than a city. It was an entire land, home to countless innocents. How many night elves were elsewhere in Azeroth? Far too few. Now, they were all who remained of their people.
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I have no idea which place you’re speaking about.
Feralas was a massive center of the night elven empire before teldrassil became a thing.
The game does not show cities to their true size due to engine limitations. Blizzard wants people on fossil computers to be able to play their games.
Darnassus didn’t have a lot of npcs, either.
You’re correct. But the poster I quoted stated that wiping out the race was a necessary requirement to achieve genocide. We know that isn’t true, because I gave an example wherein the night elf race was in no way, shape, or form in jeopardy of being wiped out.
Azsuna, which is not a living night elven center.
Operative word, was. Most of the highborne are gone and if anything, the night elves have only started to reclaim it.
Except Anduin mentioned it was a good chunk of night elves being killed off.
Except they were, or rather a near majority of them were in danger of being wiped out. The troll wars was not even an attempt to wipe out the trolls. Heck, once the trolls started retreating the humans/elves were not particularly interested in even following to wipe them out. That was not the case with Sylvanas who tried to kill anyone she could.
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Fair enough. I thought there were nelves hanging out in a camp near the vault.
Only started? Dude they’ve been there since vanilla.
I’m not denying a lot of night elves died. You didn’t comprehend what I wrote. I’m saying that you can’t say “Well gee whiz there aren’t a lot of npcs here” as proof of that being true in canon, because Darnassus did not have a lot of npcs, but a lot of people lived and died there in the story.
Zerde. Read.
She said that you had to try to wipe out the race to qualify for genocide. The Horde did not attempt to wipe out the night elf race. They exist all over the world. Most of Darnassus’s army was on a boat. There were plenty of living night elves in other places than Teldrassil, including specifically the night elves the Horde had just saved in Darkshore.
We know it was genocide. If it was genocide for the Horde, it was genocide for the humans and the night elves.
Because most people here just throw the word around, regardless if it is accurate to the situation.
Like this:
Trolls attack high elves. High elves recruit allies and defend themselves. High elves win the war. And apparently that translates into genocide. Kappa.
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Because trolls throughout history have been known to be savage cannibals. They didn’t care who they killed, and they killed for fun.
Even if the Amani didn’t declare war on humanity, they would still have hunted humans for sport.
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Sounds a lot like humans, with their roots in the Vrykul.