What happened to this game? I came back after 8 years and everything has gone down the drain. No pvp vendors, pay to lvl up, buying gold. Having to do pve to get pvp gear and having pvp gear on a rng. Seriously? Why would I want to do pve and get raid gear to do pvp and get pvp gear? Raiding and pvp need to be completely separate. Doing away with resilience too? I’m not trying to start an argument here but I should have just stayed away. The only reason I have a 120 is because I got the epic edition to preorder SL and I’m pretty disappointed to the point I don’t even want to stick around. Like am I the only original player of the way the game used to be that feels this way?
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Yea pvp went down the drain.
But probably shouldn’t pre-order stuff you don’t check out first, or you know pre-order anything.
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PvP vendors are returning in Shadowlands as well as PvP currency.
Titanforging and other RNG effects upon gear are NOT returning.
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No.
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Paying to level up and buying gold have always been in the game. All Blizzard did was make it more legitimate and safer rather than allowing players to get scammed by 3rd party websites.
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ehhhh
blizzard giving away free boosts with an expansion pack and advertising them vs sketchily seeking a 3rd party against the rules
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WoW tokens are a necessary evil to combat gold sellers. Blizzard knows they aren’t going to stop people from buying gold and getting their accounts stolen.
So, the solution was to just do it themselves and spare the time it takes to get those accounts back.
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I get why people don’t like level boosts, but you have to understand, this game is 15 years old now. So much of that content is outdated, in gameplay and relevance.
120 levels, and 7 expansions of outdated and irrelevant content is a huge turn off to a lot of players. It’s not like Classic WoW where everything you do is relevant, because the content you’re doing, is the content of the game.
In retail the game exist at endgame, not old expansions. Been that way since TBC. It just wasn’t a problem until we started reaching ridiculous levels.
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Well I’ve been playing classic if they fix everything in shadowlands I’ll be happy. I just don’t even see the point in leveling up in bad anymore knowing there’s a button I can press to make it instant(yes I know I don’t have to but that’s not the point). I can understand them wanting to combat gold selling and boosting through a third party but I think they went a little extreme. I’m glad I’m not the only one that’s mad at the state of the game. I was hoping to eventually get my wife into it but this is bs with everything they did to it. It’s like they are catering to kids with credit cards.
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Personally I love the token system, mosty since if I pay attention I can keep playing for free.
There must always be a catch 
Bean counters.
Entitled players.
Esports.
The list goes on…
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I’d say, yes, the game is objectively worse in a lot of ways. The game is also objectively better in a lot of ways. Unfortunately the ways that the game is better are usually superficial and don’t actually improve the play experience.
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I get what you’re saying but at the same time it hurts in game things like professions and the economy. Like why is the point. I can give new things a chance in the game, but not rng, and not not earning you’re gear etc. some things they shouldn’t mess with or try to improve. They have way to much quality of life stuff going on.
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I think in a general sense everybody would agree with this.
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When you leave a thing for eight years, you might want to do a minimal amount of research to see if it is different.
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game gained a lot more disk space. if i remember correctly, eight years ago you could fit it on a 128gb ssd along with windows7
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hmm? 
Leveling is not the selling point of BFA, fyi.
The selling point of BFA is its ENDGAME. The content is humongous that catching up a new toon for endgame content is quite hard as there’s no shortcuts to time gated activities. If you start playing on 8.3 right now with nothing from 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2, it would be almost impossible to catch up.
But for those who are not behind even for a casual like me, I find BFA okay. Grinding is soft. The game eliminated rendering hours to farm for gold and rep. You just need 15 min per day and you could get 4k gold per Paragon chest, you get revered in 2 to 3 weeks as you spend most of the time on the engaging content like Mythic +, Heroic Raid, Masked Vision runs and PvP. Epic gear is raining… Azerite gear is raining, Essences are accessible according to your activity (You are not required to do PvP if youre just with PvE as you can beat PvE highend content without PvP Essence). If you’ve been with BFA since Essence started, you should have about 2x or 3x Legendary Essences by now. Corrupted gear is also raining. Impossible to be left behind on Corruption Resistance as it’s time gated. Those who struggle are usually those who missed some patch/es and the noobs and maybe those with maybe short play time… and those who have armies of alt as they believe that BFA is alt-friendly.
A lot of Diablo developers were moved to WoW and they brought with them a resentment for PvP and the restrictions it imposed on PvE development. They also decided that the best way to grow PvP would be to give PvE players a gearing advantage.
The upcoming vendors are only for higher end gear, they’re not going to be selling honor gear so you’ll still need to PvE if you want to participate in entry level PvP.