What happened to the dev teams that were so strongly against RDF?

It likely wouldn’t have been if Brian was still the lead.

He was fairly adamant on the whole Wailing Cavern story after all.

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Yeah, but you also said that Wintergrasp was a CRZed instanced battleground, so…

Where’s the character you played in Wrath?

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I’ll log in right now and show you me on my Wrath only mounts with my Baby Blizzard bear following me.

Why would it be assumed it was coming with ICC when Blizz explicitly stated it wasn’t coming with ICC?

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They’re trying to save the ship but it’s too little too late. Classic is already gone. Crusade is already gone. Wrath will be 3/4 gone as well by the time RDF is put in.

Too little, too late.

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They even said they had no plans to add it. While that doesnt mean never, it however does say they werent considering it.

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They made a Blue post that said something like ‘We’re letting you know before launch we have no intention of ever including rdf in Wrath. So…plan accordingly.’

Translation: deal with it or gtfo.

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Could one of you copium-huffers link to the Blue Post where it was clearly stated “RDF IS COMING WITH THE ICC PATCH IN WOTLK CLASSIC AND NOT A MOMENT SOONER SO PLEASE BE PATIENT” ???

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Sounds about right. “you think you do but you dont” “do you guys not have phones” “pro players will still have a job”.

We did want what these expansions, we do have phones but not for gaming, and those pro players found out they didnt have a job the next week for heroes of the storm.

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What he said. If you find it I will even admit that I was wrong and should have lightened up.

Look, I thought Ion and the Retail team were egomaniacs but the Classic Team puts them to shame…if any of them are capable of shame.

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I kept spamming on the forums that it was coming with ICC.

For one, I never take anything Blizz says at face value. They tell us what they think we need to know not what we want to know or think we should be entitled to know.

Second, you never say never when it comes to Blizzard. I just had always assumed it was coming out with the ICC patch because they never strictly said RDF was off the table for eternity. Its the end of the expansion and if they are going into Cata, holding off at Wrath or going into Cata with Wrath Era servers it made more sense for it to be there than not having it there.

Well apparently not everyone on the team was in favor of its removal and the guy calling the shots stepped down. So that could be one reason. Im of the opinion they were gonna go this way the whole time and they just dont bother explaining themselves to the subscribers because theyre damned if they do and damned if they dont.

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they decided to set aside their integrity - or this was the plan all along. RDF with ICC.

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The lady that said RDF was coming, looked annoyed. She looked annoyed that it was being added, annoyed that we the players were right, annoyed that she had to announce it, annoyed that she had to go against what the people early on said.

She shouldnt be in front of the camera ever again.

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They were to busy making M+ than to put someting unclassic in like RDF.

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Because that’s when it came out the last time and not everyone hangs onto blue PR posts like their lives depended on them.

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Your opinion was never an actual contender for debate cause, well, it’s crap.

Blizzards opinion was.

And up until recently it was “RDF is not coming”.

I think this is the 5th time I tell you this, get it through your skull already?

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That is a fair point. I will say that I don’t think they had this planned out at all, but also that doesn’t mean much because they seem to do a lot of things without extensive planning. As far as them planning on adding it before Cataclysm at some point - I don’t know. There was a real tone that they might not even add it with Cataclysm the way they were talking about “community spirit” at the launch of Wrath.

I am glad it is finally coming even though I feel like it’s a bit late to have as much of an impact.

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It feels weird because its a slap in the face.