What Do You Think the Mawsworn by the Waystone are Thinking?

A metal ring isn’t human body. If it’s heavier than liquid rock, it will sink.

The reason why you hear “you won’t sink in lava” is because human bodies aren’t as heavy.

Dragon fire had destroyed some of the Dwarves’ Rings of Power but Gandalf mentioned that not even Ancalagon the Black could have destroyed the One Ring.

I meant for the waystone. At the very least having to swim through lava to get to it would be more inconvenient.

They can probably get the rank and file out but I’m betting it’s a bit more difficult for the Jailer himself to leave.

“Ve’nari is not who she says she is. Do not trust her.” - Literally every NPC.

If Ve’nari isn’t one of the Jailer’s lackeys, I’d be shocked. Hell, the quest you get at exalted is called Rule 7: Betrayal is Inevitable.

The waystone is under constant assault by flying creatures as it is. They get close, and then they get fried. Somehow I doubt the Jailer inspires such loyalty in his minions that they would kamikaze themselves into the portal if they had a choice in the matter.

Well yes, Gandalf could probably just destroy the ring himself if he had the gumption to, but the Maiar are forbidden from directly solving all the problems of mortals, even if those problems were caused by another Maiar. It’s not a plot hole, just blatant hypocrisy which is so typical of celestial races that it’s a fictional trope.

I mean same way the millions of wow player aren’t storming the bad guy each start of expansion , zerg rezing , etc solving all the worlds problem under 30mins :stuck_out_tongue:

Technically speaking the Jailer could like

I dunno

Pick up a few buildings and throw them on the waystone, burying it under 30 feet of building rubble.

Then again that logic applies to a ton of fantasy trope gateways, so the Jailer is contractually obligated to be as stupid as any other fantasy trope villains.

:open_mouth: Maybe the Jailer is Archimonde in disguise. Where is that Illidan when you need him! :open_mouth:

For all we know, The Jailer could BE Archimonde. All his troublemaking seems to begin after the red soul short-circuited The Arbiter, and we know for a fact this happened only in the last few years.

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Same reason the Scourge or Legion despite being infinite didn’t overwhelm us. Or how Old Gods can’t one shot us on a whim.

Remember it had to be special lava, no other lava would do.

I’m still salty over WoD for this. So the Iron Horde burst through the Dark Portal and caught us by surprise, we push them back till we’re killing em as they come through and what do we do? Charge through the choke point ourselves and immediately put ourselves at the disadvantage. It’s not like we couldn’t have just cycled troops to defend the portal until the Iron Horde is bled dry, or set up gnomish/goblin guns and artillery on the ridges to fire at the entrance, or have a couple shaman just fill the hole with a nearby mountain.

I think they screwed themselves when they made it an alternate past. Everything makes perfect absolute sense if we were sent to the actual past, going in and clearing out Garrosh’s and Gul’dan’s interferences so that our own world doesn’t get screwed up.

…But then they made it an alternate past. In which case, yeah, shove 'em back in and close the door behind 'em. Ain’t our problem.

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Guard one: “hey why is the boss so interested in this weird rock obelisk?” Guard two: “Dunno, maybe we should poke it with a stick…?” Guard one: “Yeah yeah good idea, I got a pole let’s do this!!” guard pokes it with a stick and both get teleported to Revendreth where they get painfully absolved of their sins and sent to Bastion…

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I am assuming that because it was constructed by the “first ones” that they can’t destroy it. But the Jailer would be crazy to not have an army guarding it non stop. The only thing I can think of, except horrible writing, is there is a reason the Jailer is allowing us to use it. Maybe it is weakening the divide between the Maw and the rest of Shadowlands or he is secretly studying how we are using it so he can do the same to escape with his army.

I am hoping there is a reason besides a plot loop hole for why the Jailer isn’t doing something about basically everyone escaping the Maw.

Who needs Waystones? We have Hearthstones that work there. :eyes:

I think if they made it so you couldn’t hearth out of the Maw the playerbase would implode.

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Oh, it would. :rofl:

Could that mean we betray her? I’m not even close to exalted and may never get there so I’m really curious.

I’m a little fuzzy how what the deal is with the Jailor’s forces. Are those within the maw actually leaving to attack or is he recruiting/corrupting new minions outside the Maw and once they fall into the Maw, they are stuck there with him?

The mawsworm of Davos seem to be getting converted outside the Maw - I haven’t done the Kyrian campaign so I don’t know if it’s shown any are coming back out of the Maw once they go there?

Kel’thuzad seemed to successfully summon a single stygian giant at the end of the Revendreth/Maldraxxus campiagn, but only with great effort/cost (and was it actually confirmed to have cone from the Maw?)

Wouldn’t make much sense if their boss is trying to escape. Something about that stone doesn’t work with him so I’d imagine the first ones did that as a failsafe. So some people could enter and leave, but he can’t.