What do you think of these kind of people

I have came across with some people who really seems to not have any awarenes or care of what are they saying, let me explain some situations i have been

In the siren isles there is a bug, that slows your camera when you turn way too much even after you leave the isle

the answer of this big problem that i got from many were “well, you could just use right click to turn your camera”

and if you keep asking because that is not the answer to your problem they actually see you like a weirdo for trying to find an answer to your problem

other case was with the poor character selection that we got

i said there should be a way to arrange my pj for realm since i have plenty and their answer is

“well, you can made multiple camps, so that solve everything”

they really cant acknowledge that the UI of warcraft is very poorly made and desperatly needs tools, but for them camps are the solution to any problem it could have

the same happened me with the Valdraken portal, when asked for help to can use it

the asnwer i got multiple times “or you can just use the ship”

these people really dont seem to understand that they are ignoring the problem that need to be adressed and instead offfer you “alternatives” that doesnt solve the prolem, and no, they are not offering you a help while you find the answer, they legimetly offer you that as a solution and if you keep asking you are the problem for them

have you ever know someone like that ? i really feel like they want to help but really cant tell they are making the things harder even for themselfs

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When one can’t physically fix a problem, it’s not uncommon to suggest a work around.

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this is not suggest a way around, this is more like if i if want a donut and ask for help to find a donut store and someone answer

“there is a taco store, go get something there”

i dont want a taco, i want a donut, but these people cant understand that, i am not asking for a food store, i am asking for a donut store

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This is the literal definition of a work around.

The suggestion accomplishes the goal of traveling to Valdraken, does it not?

Anyways. Was just throwing in my two cents.

see, you are not reading, I WANT UNLOCK THE PORTAL TO VALDRAKEN

i dont want to go to valdraken, i want to unlock the portal to go there, read slowly, i want to be able to use the portal to go there, i want that archivement

suggesting me things to reach valdraken doesnt fix any problem since the objetive is not beign reached

which again, is unlock the portal, not reach valdraken

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That’ a lie.

You want a taco AND a donut.

How could you not?

Oh man now I do want a taco. Tacos for dinner it is!

…and maybe donuts too.

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they are working through the problem in a mind-map format, begining with the simplest “just-do-it” suggestions.

when you hear hooves, you assume horses, not zebras.

Instructions unclear, I have turned donuts into a taco filler.

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As someone who has been on the other side of this many times, I can tell you this is often because of a miscommunication.

I will take the example of using right mouse to turn your character vs using the keyboard to do it simply because this is something I can speak to (I’m not familiar enough with the other situations you mentioned to feel like I should use them).

If you say that your character turns slowly and someone says just use right mouse, that’s not ignoring your problem. Given the very limited information the other person has, they are taking time out of their day to try to help you by giving you an answer that may solve your problem.

The problem here is two-fold. First, you need to make sure that you provide all the information required. For example some people can’t use right mouse due to a disability, some people are just so used to the keyboard that they can’t use the mouse, and some people just prefer keyboard to the mouse. There’s nothing wrong with that.
But when someone suggests using right mouse, it falls on you to clarify that using right mouse is not an option for you. They aren’t psychic, they can’t know what you don’t tell them.
Now the other part is that people will assume. Yes, they’ll assume that you can just use right mouse. Again though, it’s on you to clarify what exactly you mean and what you’re looking for here.

As for why people suggest workarounds, it’s because we’re not developers. We cannot fix game bugs or change how the game works, so the only thing other people can do is suggest workarounds.

For your example with a donut shop, it would be like this:
“Where is the donut shop.”
“Well there’s no donut shop here, but there is a taco bell 2 blocks north.”

There is no donut shop, but the person still tried to be helpful by providing you an alternative option. They took the initiative and, yes, assumed, and provided you with an answer that may or may not be helpful but would get you fed.
Now the miscommunication comes in because you think the answer is not helpful, but you asked the question and got an accurate answer. There is no donut shop in town, they are telling you that and also providing an alternative.

You are under no obligation to act on their advice, but people are going out of their way to take the time and mental energy to try to provide you with the answers that they can, and it’s not fair to them to be called out for “not listening” when they are just trying to be helpful.

Now imagine if instead you went:
“Anyone got directions to a donut shop? I don’t want directions to anywhere else, I only want directions to a donut shop. If you aren’t going to be helpful by answering with directions to a donut shop then don’t say anything at all.”

You clarified exactly the type of answer you are looking for. You were clear and no one will misinterpret what you are asking for.
You are also making it so the guy who would tell you there’s no donut shop, but there is a bakery that also sells great donuts, that you are not interested in his answer.

When you ask for a donut shop, most people will assume you’re asking for where to buy donuts. If there’s a generic bakery or grocery store that sells donuts, they will tell you where it is so you can buy donuts. And here you are getting mad at them for not telling you where a donut shop is.

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First off, everybody should always want tacos all the time. Tacos are great.

Anyway people who keep answering a slightly different question to the one you asked is probably about as annoying as people getting upset at others just trying to be helpful because they didn’t get the exact answer they wanted.

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Why do people call them tacos though? Everyone knows they are actually hotdogs but with groundbeef instead. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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Are tacos a hotdog, or are hotdogs a taco?

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Yes

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i can agree with that you said about but what if even yet, they still insisting you in that you should be okay with what you got and keep inssiting you that should deal with it as it is, no metter the details you added

It’s the same kind of attitude in FFXIV. Your either onboard with the way things are or you’re a big ol’ weirdo face.

Well sometimes that’s the only answer. Like I had said, we’re not developers. We can’t change how the game works.
Sometimes you won’t like the answer, but it is the answer. You can either accept it, or thank them for their time and try to find a different answer elsewhere.

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what do you want people to do, op, wave their hand and magically solve the problem?

when there is no solution, suggesting a way to work around it is all other players can do.

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So because you didn’t like the answers you were given in the other thread, you had to come here and whine about people??

Dude… there is already a search functionality that does exactly what you were ranting at people about.

You got hostile. You got snappy. You got condescending.

People are trying to help you and give you answers to solve issues (the turning one was wrong) and instead of saying, “thanks,” you got snippy and condescending.

No one is ignoring issues. They’re giving you solutions.

And you had to go and make a thread to whine about that??

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no, but this is not a developer problem, like the camera problem, the answer is a simple comand to move camera faster, and it was a common problem what still happening in the isles

i get people wont always have the tools to solve the problems, but sometimes they really keep answering you the same despite you give the details and that doest work

there is also the people who have the strong instict to defend blizzard poor design, they just offer you alternatives to ignore the actual problem

like the pj selection screen, that is very poorly made and lack tools, but people just keep answering, “you can use camps” they keep ignoring the problem that is blizzard poor design and keep repeating the camps that honestly doenst solve the problem in question that is a easy way to arrange characters by realm, faction, etc

other example is with pokemon games, people defeding pokemon with things like "the gameplay is what metters " despite the game was so broke

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You made another thread to complain about us telling you that what you want is already in the game. I am going to make a thread complaining about people that complain.

The answer is if you want your toons from a realm to be together- you make a campsite with that realm name- you stick your toons in it

problem solved