Just chiming in to point out that Era is far from #NoChanges. It has never been #NoChanges and has even more changes creep in fairly regularly.
Note: this isn’t an anti-change post. I’m just pointing out that there are zero #NoChanges servers on offer.
SoD and the anniversary realms are doing better than Era(which was abandoned by most of the players when TBC Classic launched) so… what does that say about #nochanges?
in two years theyll release another seasonal. it wont be classic+
I’m not counting bugs that have leaked into Era because blizzard is bad at QC.
Every single class you see in pvp will have the exact same spec. Variety is good, and there will be none. People will play the most efficient class in every form of content. Choice means nothing. It will be incredibly boring and static.
There’s nothing wrong with not being able to excel at every aspect of the game with no sacrifice. That’s how Vanilla worked. You actually had to pick and choose in what areas you wanted to shine. But no, can’t have that!!! Just gotta make it like every other version of the game.
And the actual end result of this wasn’t that people played and sucked at certain aspects of the game, they just didn’t play them.
Dual spec helps with that issue.
This is exactly what OP is trying to make a point of… What you just stated. You want Variety in pvp, we WANT variety in pve. That would also bring better loot distribution and faster gearing to the entire raid. People in PVE already bring the MOST efficient class in every form.
So I’m glad we can come to an agreement that change and variety can be a good thing for Classic wow.
There’s nothing stopping you from having variety in pve other than, “BuT tHaT’s NoT tHe MoSt PerFecTiSt RaId cOmP!!!”
Ease off the ridiculous min/maxing nonsense, and play what you want. This is Vanilla content. It’s not difficult.
Oh, or you can go play SoD.
The sad thing is most no change people don’t even know what they are arguing against. It’s actually exhausting.
C’mon. You’ve played Era, you know the changes reach far beyond bugs, even if we disagree on some of those.
The macro system is not the Vanilla macro system. The UI and menus have countless changes. Chronoboons, the ranking system, AV, end-patch character tuning, and many, many more things.
Some you would likely consider patching out exploits that I would consider breaking legitimate “warts and all” gameplay, such as changes to logout resets, mob pathing, etc. and it’s fine to agree to disagree on those, we still have far too many changes to the game to say, “That’s #NoChanges” with a straight face, imo.
that guy was one of the literal wall of no posters, btw
The core elements are the actual balancing and content, which is almost entirely unchanged in Era. Yes it’s on the end of vanilla patch and you didn’t get progressive patches. Other than that they added what the chrono boon?
So yes I’ll say #nochanges in that context.
Because vanilla pvp is near perfectly balanced - all they need is to add MMR and the game can be one of best pvp games in the world.
My main reason is that’s not worth ruining pvp to make raids more clowny.
All the meme specs are extremely powerful in pvp - they will still suck in pve with buffs but will destroy pvp balance.
Not to mention there’s literally a server built for exactly what they’re asking for: raid viability for every spec.
And yet, here they are demanding the same thing in Classic fresh. It’s beyond selfish.
Bro, is your IQ like 70? How many times do I gotta say this post is about classic plus?
SoD is Blizz’s attempt at Classic+. Take it or leave it.
isn’t sod the version of classic 60 with class balance?
go ahead & play it if u want to play any class or spec.
My bad, definitely a solid 50. You got that simple jack energy down my man.
SoD is blizzard trying random sandbox ideas. Some of which might make it into classic+ if it ever happens.
I take it that you’re being serious with this?
Is mob pathing and logout reset points not part of core gameplay? Is the ranking system not part of core gameplay? Is the macro system not part of core gameplay? I suppose you could argue that nameplate view distance isn’t part of core gameplay, and we could just agree to disagree, but it feels like I’d have to agree to disagree with fundamentals here, at which point I realize we just don’t see eye to eye on the meaning of words or core aspects of WoW.
So anyway, good luck advocating for what you want. I hope you get it.