It was Nathanos. Sylvanas was too busy on Warchief business to receive emissaries.
Nathanos did play a role in convincing her to allow the Gathering to take place though, in the form of “it will be good in the long run after we conquer Stormwind and raise its population as undead” and “When the humans reject all the Forsaken at the Gathering it will make it easier to convince the Forsaken to kill them”
Please.
Your record of misinformation, gaslighting and outright lying precedes you.
Again, we don’t know what happened to said ambassadors, for all we know they were killed by some random humans before they every actually got their message to the Alliance, or more likely either Onyxia/Varimathas stop them because a united Eastern Kingdoms would be detrimental to their plans.
Yeah, but Sylvanas killed them all. Even the ones who were loyal to her and returning, because she didn’t want the idea of reconciliation to spread among the rest of the Forsaken. The only ones she allowed back were the ones who had bad encounters and would spread that message.
Revisiting BtS I see that Blightcaller indeed greeted him warmly, while Sylvanas seemed a little bit more disappointed that he didn’t join the Forsaken proper after she had liberated him so he could have free will. Although we now Sylvanas has ulterior motives and Blightcaller is her Champion, she calls on him to speak before the Forsaken. The only time Blightcaller felt anger is when he accused Faol of fraternizing with the enemy of the Horde. By the end of it all Blightcaller had deemed Faol as powerful, genuine, and harmless.
"The newcomer bowed. “Archbiship Alonsus Faol,” he said. Vellcinda was surprised. It had been a well-known name not so long ago. She was pleased he had not perished with so many others. “Oh, my,” she said. “It’s an honor.” Even Nathanos Blightcaller bowed to the archbishop. “Indeed it is. What is it you wish of me, sir?” “I have a letter. Actually, two. the first one is for your warchief. The second one is for someone named Elsie Benton.” BtS Pg 154
Overall I agree with Sarestha, the running theme is Faol is well respected among the Forsaken and Alliance. To be quite honest the majority of the Alliance leaders wanted to kill him on the spot, the fact that they were in Cathedral of Light be damned. I admit by the end of the book those leaders had changed their views.
That isn’t true.
Would you like for me to post the reference? I really don’t mind.
Yes, that is not “greeting him warmly.” Nathanos resented the fact that he was independent of the Forsaken and “fraternizing with the Alliance”
His first reaction to Faol (which you conveniently omitted) was
So did Nathanos. “This is from the king of Stormwind,” he snapped, his red eyes blazing with anger as he turned to Faol. “What are you doing, fraternizing with an enemy of the Horde?”
The encounter ended with Nathanos “suspicious” and “looking displeased.”
That’s just his resting Nathanos face.
I literally posted his first reaction in the previous post:
"The newcomer bowed. “Archbiship Alonsus Faol,” he said. Vellcinda was surprised. It had been a well-known name not so long ago. She was pleased he had not perished with so many others. “Oh, my,” she said. “It’s an honor.” Even Nathanos Blightcaller bowed to the archbishop. “Indeed it is. What is it you wish of me, sir?” “I have a letter. Actually, two. the first one is for your warchief. The second one is for someone named Elsie Benton.” BtS Pg 154
In my opinion Blightcaller, bowed to the man, agreed that it was an honor to meet him, and called the man sir. Sounds like respect to me.
As the Hand of the Warchief, Blightcaller reaction to Faol meeting with the Alliance is appropriate as Blightcaller was also respectful.
It was much better than his near murder experience he received from Genn and Turaylon. Wouldn’t you say?
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IKR ahahahaha!
Like who does Blightcaller, bow for and agree that its an honor to met that person?
By all means. I don’t want to be repeating false lore if I’m misremembering.
“There are more than just the council member who would like to be involved,” Nathanos said. “A great many attended the memorial service and are sympathetic to them.” But Sylvanas shook her head. “No. This needs to be a small number so I can control the situation. Council members only” BtS pg 168
We don’t know to what extent that sympathy stuck because you can be absolutely sure that Sylvanas spun a tale of humans rejecting Forsaken in the aftermath of the Gathering.
I know I really honed in on BtS and Exploring Azeroth, but presently this is the same person that just told the Forsaken to go kick rocks.
If the Forsaken have retained their sympathy and are genuinely remorseful for their actions towards the living under Sylvanas then they should demonstrate it, both verbally and through their actions.
but but but the ebon blades are worse they killed 5 guys in lights hope compared to what the forsaken did!!!
I agree, and vice versa for their living counterparts.
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At the end of the day, what we know for sure is that there were more Forsaken than the Desolate Council that wanted to be involved in connecting with their living Alliance family friends.
I think that the Alliance has already demonstrated considerable generosity by allowing the Forsaken to return to Lordaeron at all, even though they have demonstrated the power to keep the Forsaken out by force if they choose.
That could actually work if it was stated or depicted as such in some form of canon storytelling outlet ie novel, ingame, short story, etc etc.
It doesn’t need to be an elaborate storyline just something concrete and preferably something negotiated by former Lordaeronian such as Barov, Voss, Caila, Hecular, Turaylon, Rodgers, Lord Maxwell Tyrosus, and Mograine.
Its nice that we could deduct/speculate such things but I would prefer something a little more concrete. As fans, we shouldn’t have to squeeze out something as monumental as negotiating and sharing the lands of the fallen Kingdom.
On another note, I just realize how easy it is for me to come up with named Forsaken characters from the fallen Kingdom than named Alliance characters.
Um, you do realize this is not even remotely close right?
If we change the names of the parties and try and match the in-game events we get:
The chain of events in WoW was insanity.
Putting real names and places on the events only makes them more trashy.
TBH there was a really important detail I’ve not seen anyone bring up:
“She shook her pale head. “A curse upon Vol’jin and his loa. I should have stayed in the shadows, where I could be effective without being interrogated.”
Where I could do as I truly wished.
“She’d never wanted this. Not really. As she had told the troll Vol’jin before, during the trial of the late and greatly unlamented Garrosh Hellscream, she liked her power, her control, on the subtle side. But with quite literally his dying breath, Vol’jin, the Horde’s leader, had commanded that she do the opposite. He had claimed he had been granted a vision by the loa he honored.
You must step out of da shadows and lead.
You must be warchief.”Excerpt From: Christie Golden. “Before the Storm (World of Warcraft).”
Passage suggests she didn’t know the Jailer was involved, through Mueh’zala, in making her Warchief.
Change that presumption, and everything later is in a different prism.
Short answer; I think it was simply bad experience. The Alliance’s first experience with the undead was the Scourge; they’d destroyed Lorderaen and much of Quel’thalas, killed many of their family and friends and had demonic ties.
So the living members of the Alliance were unwilling to believe that some undead had broken free of the Scourge and that they wanted to live peacefully with their kin, especially the traumatized survivors of Lorderaen.
“What caused the Alliance humans to hate the Forsaken?”
The Scourge.
Do you really need anything more?