What can be done about the black lotus gold farmers?

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This isn’t a complaint thread, there are too many of those as it is. I’m simply trying to come up with a solution to this problem, but nothing seems like it will work.

Banning accounts doesn’t work because these farmers are making more than enough to just purchase new ones. They spread like weeds.

At this point the only thing I can think of would be a fundamental change to the black lotus system which could cause other unforseen problems. Personally I think the best solution is to allow black lotus to spawn at any herb node in the zone rather than at fixed locations. The window at which they respawn should be increased both on the high and low end as well.

Thoughts?

Edit: I’m an herbalist/alchemist and I really don’t see a point in keeping herbalism if the most valuable herb is virtually unattainable.

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if it was easily attainable, it wouldn’t necessarily be the most valuable then would it?

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Blizzard is not going to ban people for farming. This isn’t blizzard’s fault. They provide servers for the players to do whatever they want, within the TOS. If a rule was being broken, Blizzard would adequately punish the offenders. This is your fault, the fault of the players. Blizzard’s hands are tied in this regard.

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There is a difference between competing for these resources vs actual players and competing vs someone who logs on with 9 level 1 accounts at each spawn point every time a lotus respawns. People are doing this on every server and then transfer to the servers with the highest demand and selling the gold they make from lotus for real money.

Go troll elsewhere.

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Is there a way to flag the bot PvP with an AoE then kill him.

Maybe get a rogue to train him.

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you would have to do that 24/7 to really get to them.

killing them a time or two wont do anything

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And even then you’d need to know who their 60 was. It’s hard to tell when they immediately go to the spawn location and loot it unless you actually see them loot it.

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Lotus can be picked by Level 1s?

Edit: Seems they’re using them just to scout if its up?

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That isn’t how it works.

Even if you’re referring to the people using level one ghosts to spot nodes, it isn’t against the EuLa. It is, however, hilarious.

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That sounds like competition to me. They used their own time to establish a competitive advantage. Here’s the kicker, so can you.

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arbitrage is an acceptable monetary method, in fact it normalizes prices which is a good thing

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Wow! Thanks for doing all that research. Veryifying that this was happening at every Black Lotus node on every server must have taken you hundreds of hours! Plus, you had to level a character to 60 on every server to test it!

Or did you just invent this claim? Are you just saying this to support your argument! That sounds hundreds of times more likely to me.

So…in this thread anyone who disagrees with you, or calls your pure BS “BS”, is a troll? That’s a new definition of “troll” to me.

It sounds a lot like – and I’m just quoting others – “attacking the person, because you can’t disprove their facts”.

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I honestly believe you are just doing it wrong, but it may be server differences. I currently have 13 BL sitting in my inventory, the fruits of many grueling hours this week of herb farming. Altogether I’ve probably gotten 20 in the last week.

It can be done, and its not easy. If you devote enough time to it and know what you are doing, you will find them.

As for ‘Gold Farmers’ this entire game is farming, so don’t assume that whoever is your competition is doing so for anything other than advancing themselves in the game. You farm dungeons, you farm raids, you farm honor, you farm rep, you farm trade materials, you farm gold. Those that are farming with a team, may have figured out the solution to your problem.

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Where is your proof of RMT?

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You obviously know nothing about the game and how bad these bots plague the economy on every server. The economy in vanilla / classic is everything and the amount of bots running rampant 24/7 on the servers to sell gold are totally destroying it. Botting and gold sales are obviously bannable and against the Terms of Use yet nothing happens. If you dont play classic, why are you commenting on classic issues. Take your pointless banter/input back to retail where nothing matters and gold is worthless.

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Translation: someone is selling black lotus cheaper than I am.

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Speaking as someone w/ 150~ black lotus (most sold by now bc prices will tank due to this very reason), it is difficult to beat the 9 account player, but it is possible with a serious strategy. Is it worthwhile? Most likely not.

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I don’t seem to have any problem farming them and I am on one of the most populated servers.

Maybe the problem is with you?

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You need to establish a network of friends, in both factions, across all timezones.
Said friends have to also feel the same as you do about the bots/farmers what ever you wish to call them (technically not bots in this case)
Now said friends need to organize a schedule, and designated location and take turns standing on top of the ghosts (who can not pick up the lotus) and snag the lotus as soon as it spawns.

Keep rotating the friends out so no one is ghost sitting for hours at a time, may also help to real ID friend everyone, so you can all join a battlenet chat channel.

Eventually, the farmer is losing money instead of making it since it is paying for 10+ accounts plus character transfers, but its profits from shipping off shore have plummeted due to lack of sufficient supply.

Now keep in mind, said farmer will most likely go to another realm and try to set up shop again, so that realm would need to repeat your actions.

What they normally do is farm the lotus on a lower pop PVE server, but sometimes a PVP server with lower pop.
When the toon has a butt load of lotus, they pay for a transfer to a high pop PVP realm where it is hard to farm lotus as a normal player cause, ya know, PVP happened.

They dump it in the AH, where it is bought up and high prices due to PVP induced difficulty in normal farming.

They then take that gold, and transfer characters to other realms
where ever the prospect of gold sales is highest.

So in essence, they ship product off your realm to another, then ship the gold off that realm, to yet another one.

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So you’re just confirming what I’m saying? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.

Seems like forum trolls just want to defend the gold farmers rather than acknowledge a problem. They’re probably the same people who say “PvP happened on a PvP server” when referring to a 10v1 fight