I’ve been leveling my rogue like mad this weekend. So far I’ve loved every moment of it. This is definitely gonna be my Shadowlands main.
However…I’m having trouble with Sub. Specifically, it feels weird to me. I’m not sure how to describe. I’m even struggling to figure out what key I should bind it to, because I sorta use similar keybinds for all my characters.
Sin and Outlaw I find to be a blast, but managing Symbols and Dances together is causing me a surprising amount of trouble.
Am I crazy? Or just a matter of ‘Get Gud’?
Well every spec feels bad until your last or second to last talent tier because you are missing core abilities. You don’t even get aoe builders until after level 60.
For leveling as sub, I think Nightstalker, Vigor and Soothing shadows go a long way toward making things feel smooth.
For Symbols, you can just use a macro to bind them to the same key at lower levels when you only have one shadowdance charge, that way they’re always being used together, set to cast symbols first.
I bind it to my short dps cooldown slot, so symbols takes up the same keybind as toxic blade or blade flurry when spec swaping.
You may ultimately not want to macro it together in shadowlands. Symbols (in SL) will gaurantee a crit, very useful for aoe application of find weakness, but how useful shadowdance is for aoe will vary based on your talent choices. Alternatively, even if you make heavy aoe friendly shadowdance choices, if you are using the master assassin lego, you may not always want to blow symbols during an aoe dance.
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I appreciate the help. I’ve been reluctant to make a macro because it felt like a crutch.
I’ll keep playing at it, and some more once prepatch hits, but I think Sub may not be for me. A shame considering my love of PvP 
I hated symbols too actually, it feels a bit clunky I know - same with the cold blood pvp talent. It gets easier to use with practice, you can try binding it to your mouse too, like mouse wheel down/ or a side button.
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im sure its a dps loss but i have symbols macro’d with dance the same with cold blood and shadowstrike.
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