What are your thoughts on guild donations earning DKP/EPGP?

I know of guilds that give DKP/EPGP for donations… but how do they manage it fairly?

Let’s start with some hypothetical questions:

If I donated 400x Greater Fire Protection Pots should I get DKP/EPGP? How much? As much as a boss kill? More? Less?

What if I donated 3 full sets of Dark Iron FR gear to the tanks?

Or what if I just send all of my low level BoE greens to the guild banker account character?

Does it matter how much gold my donations are worth?

What if I grind Diremaul when it comes out and just give every raider 250g? Should I get DKP/EPGP?

Would you join a guild that allowed this?

What’s your ideal donation structure?

Hmmm not sure I would go along with handing out dkp outside of a raid. Grinding a profession for a dkp reward doesn’t mean someone is good in a raid. Having a piece of gear that drops go to someone who got their dkp from donations doesn’t sound like a good idea. I get that donations could help out a raiding guild, but not sure dkp is the right way to reward it.

Yeah, I agree. So, I keep wondering what is the right way to reward it? Like, a guarantee on one of the ZG mounts? Or the Ony bag? You know, something that isn’t directly tied to DPS/HPS.

LOL! Those are some gigantic rewards you mention there! I raided ZG many times in vanilla and only saw the mount once! Maybe someone else has an idea for proper rewards.

Ok, how about I donate you 600 mongoose pots and 800 fire prot pots for that sweet, sweet raptor lol

The guild I was in back in Vanilla awarded dkp for donations, but only like 5pts per month for active raiders and like 10pts I think for backups. You had to donate a certain amount of goods as well. The goods were crafting mats for items that the raid needed. Then crafters would be given the mats and turn them into the resist potions, resist gear etc. the back up raiders got more points so they would be more likely to donate mats and then have a better chance of getting gear down the road. It seemed to work. We always had the ability to craft what we need per month and it also helped get newer members caught up when we had a roster change for whatever reason. Each guild is different though.

We never really rewarded donating. We had to generally farm/craft/buy our own consumables and supplies. Generally the only time we could get DKP outside of raids was to attend a guild event. Like you could get DKP for raiding undercity or org…

Do you recall what amount of dkp the raiders were given? 50, 75?? Giving a donator 5 or 10 would be OK if the raiders got 50 I think.

Considering that those are made almost entirely with raid mats it really couldn’t be considered a “donation”. :slight_smile:

But on the topic, i think that dkp should only be awarded for raid participation.
Single handedly supplying the entire raid with consumables is an incredible accomplishment worthy of praise but awarding dkp for non raid activities is a slippery slope.
As another person mentioned a cap on non raid dkp earnings per week/month would be a good way to handle it, and could encourage more people in the guild to contribute.

Yeah we got like 40 to 50 for the week of raiding I believe. So times that by 4 for like the month.

With all the tabs in the current games guild bank… I had a hard time holding enough materials for 20 players let alone 40. I couldn’t imagine holding onto mats for 40 people with classic storage issues. We always provided our own… probably mostly for this reason.

Bank toons. Lots of bank toons

I mean you could just traide the dkp.

Just sounds like A LOT lol… that’s a big time sink versus expecting your raiders to get their own. But I don’t think people should be rewarded DKP. If you want to incentivize donations, make a log and give the top 3 donators different prizes. BoE rewards, sure maybe a mount, stuff of that nature. Just not dkp. If dkp, like a lot have said, a
minimal amount. You can get creative and get donations going without rewarding dkp. There are also people who don’t wanna raid and just love to farm in the game and help others for no reward, so there’s that. Loved that about one of my friends I got into wow. He just liked fishing and mining and crap and would load the bank up for nothing. He was just a nice dude (:

Not really. DKP/EP should be awarded to individuals that help the guild reach its goals. Sitting on the bench, farming materials for the guild, making armor and weapons, being online, on-time, and at the location of the raid, waiting outside of the instance to fill a spot while the guild is raiding, etc. are all worthwhile activities deserving of points. To suggest otherwise is asinine.

5 to 10 dkp a month for mats really isn’t that much. They also had a rotating on call each week that garnered some dkp. This way everyone was participating and generating stuff. The guild had very little drama unlike other raid guilds i’ve Seen. Second tier players were able to participate and earn too at a slower rate.

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My guild allowed for earning a minimal amount of DKP for material donations. It wasn’t much and certainly significantly less than what could be earned for reading but it was something. It seemed to work well, at least I don’t remember any Drama regarding earning that DKP.

Yeah I completely forgot about storage space. Guild banks didn’t come in until BC! Lots of bank alts would be a solution but aren’t we limited to three toons in Classic?

Thinking about it Garilas I have to agree. People who support a raiding guild with mats, gear, standing by to fill an empty slot, all of that, is important. Rewarding those players helps the guild stay strong.

You are limited to 3 toons for the purpose of name reserving prior to launch, they will probably raise the limit after launch