I’ve heard that even locks with pre-bis and flasked can easily sustain 400-600 dps and easily parse 95-99 in their bracket while staying in the orange for overall parse regardless of ilvl. Is it that easy? If so I am leveling one.
Add- is it true that right now locks outparse and outdps mages and hunters?
Item level doesn’t really mean much in the first few phases of Classic.
Well a warlock’s rotation is shadowbolt, shadowbolt, shadowbolt, shadowbolt, shadowbolt, life tap. So yeah. It’s pretty easy.
Classes don’t out-parse each other. Parses are measured only against players of the same class.
In later phases hunter DPS falls behind. They’re considered the worst DPS of any pure DPS class. Mages, on the other hand, are possibly the best DPS in later phases.
Parses are for non warrior classes to justify their raid spot. I’m hitting orange parses and some 99s and have never flasked MC though.
As the other poster said, parses are comparisons between you and others of your class. If you’re parsing in the 90s, you’re parsing better than 90% of others playing and logging with your class.
In terms of raw DPS, locks are behind Mages and Hunters at this point due to the fact they dont have any talented spell hit, (in destro anyways) or enough spell hit gear to get anywhere close to cap.
Every once in awhile a Warlock will out DPS me, but it requires a lot of luck on the lock’s side to not get a bunch of resists, and requires me to be unlucky with the amount of the resists I’m getting.
Warlock parses depend heavily on how quickly your guild kills bosses because once you’ve used all your mana plus a pot and rune and have to start lifetapping, your dps drops sharply. Also different strats for certain fights make a big difference if you can AOE or dot multiple targets. And then finally there is a huge variance due to having ~15% resist chance on top of crit chance playing a major role. But yeah if you show up with world buffs and consumes you should be able to parse in the 90s easily.
Later phases warlocks get hit and get very close to mages. The only thing that keeps mages ahead are the ignite ticks.
FACT: Damage Meters and Parsing are the #1 reasons for raid wipes.
I’ve gotten orange parses before. Even without a flask. I walked into MC this week with literally one piece of raid gear.
So yea. That makes sense.
Overall parse depends heavily on raid strats tho. There have been issues with locks getting roflstomped on Garr, so some raid leaders will tell warlocks not to DPS at all. That’s gonna hurt your orange parse.
Yea as easy as spending a bunch of gold on max roll “of shadow wrath” gear (if it even pops up on the AH). Then spending hundreds of gold on consumes every raid.
Oh, and you need to be in a guild that kills bosses relatively quickly.
And you need to be allowed to use corruption.
Maybe then.
Yeah I was about to say, dont the top parses have the locks using Corruption to proc nightfall? I know the good locks on fights like Golemagg put corruption on the ads as well to increase the chance it procs.
All the top lock parses have corruption, since it’s always a DPS boost.
However, not all of those warlocks are SM/Ruin. Many are DS/Ruin, so they don’t have nightfall.
Given the low chance to proc (4%), the time spent casting corruption doesn’t actually justify the small chance to save 1 second of cast time on 1 shadowbolt.
These warlocks are padding meters, and are therefor bad.
…I’m one of them. >.>
Nothing wrong with corruption on dogs if you’re sm/ruin to fish nightfalls. I’ve never been lock on horde side but I can only imagine the threat without paladin blessing of salvation once we get +hit gear.
No, that would be poor coordination. You can win most fights thus far with a field of half dead half doing 200 dps if you’re well coordinated.
I’m not saying you’re going to pull, but you’re reducing your DPS on Golemagg by doing that.
Nightfall has a 1 in 25 chance to proc.
Corruption ticks 6 times.
You only save 1 second of cast time when you get a nightfall proc.
Corruption takes 1.5 seconds to cast.
So on average, you’ll need to cast 4.2 corruptions to get 1 proc. You’re spending 6.3 seconds to save 1 second.
Yes. Though corruption is always a dps boost, so even DS/Ruin locks do it. Not just SM locks. Pretty sure they also are doing ampd curse of agony, and have fight durations so short that they don’t actually need to lifetap. Well, some of them are Agony anyway. Not all.
Pray to RNGesus for crits on crits rather than resists on resist, only thing outside of setup you can do ie, group comp, world buffs, consumables.
Your a lock so you will always have raid spots, regardless of the classes DPS relative to other classes.
Some of the top parses use CoA because CoA will always be a DPS boost, but I’m not seeing people amping it regularly even in the top parses worldwide.
Obviously almost all warlocks should avoid CoA completely. There are far better debuffs.
Because they’d have to both be SM/Ruin AND be given the okay to use Agony to see an amped one.
Some of the better parses are amping it. Some arent. Some arent even using agony. Lock parsing so luck based.
It depends.
Assuming a pretty standard debuff setup Warlocks are likely to out parse mages but if you’re running any priests with PI then the mages are a far far better target for that and the mages that receive it will easily outparse warlocks.
But it’s all about teamwork, remember that while parses are a good source of analysis to see how well the raid is doing and identifying areas where you’re lacking and checking on individual performance and what you need to improve.
Individuals that obsess about slaying the parser beast are a greater threat to the raid then the boss itself
Well, there’s also the DPS of the Corruptions. Each one does 666 damage and, if talented, takes 1.5 seconds because of global cooldowns. That’s 444 damage per time spent casting plus it gets 100% of spell power.
A Shadow Bolt does about 480 damage and takes 2.5s talented. That’s 192 DPS plus it gets 87.5% of spell power.
So, clearly Corruption is well worth the time spent casting it. 444 vs 192 and a much better spell coefficient. It doesn’t crit but that’s good, in a way, since crits cause a ton of threat.
Now there’s other effects like Shadow Vulnerability procs, crits, and so forth. But even with all that it’s still good to have as many Corruptions up as possible. The Nightfall procs are gravy on top of the DPS from Corruption, when the proc happens they change the next Shadow Bolt DPS from 192 DPS to 320 DPS.
By the way, Corruption is also pretty mana efficient at 2.3 damage per mana. Shadow Bolt is 1.3 damage per mana. Of course, before spell power, crits, procs, and so on.
At the top, those last ranks are 100% dependent on luck to separate the top 99 from each other
I feel like I’ve done all I can if I’ve hit a 95+ parse, the rest is down to crits/resists